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I think the biggest mistake out of all of this would be the turn shove. I just don't think you really have that much fold equity, certainly not enough for the amount you are risking for this to be a good play. The turn doesn't change the hand really much at all, so his hand vs your hand should be the same as it was on the flop in his mind.

Mhm I agree.

Fortunately, Villain folded. But still, the hand has been misplayed. Thanks guys for huge input, I appreciate your help.

After flopcall his range is:
- TT (6)
- maybe JJ (so let's throw 1 combo)
- some AQ too (there are 12 combos, I think he x/c with like 6)
- KQdd (1)

I think some AK combos are possible as well and he will prob x/c most of them. I don't know how many of them he may have in his 4-bet calling range, maybe 3-4?

This spot is close and close to 0EV I would say.

This shows a shove OTT not included slowplyed JJ+ is about zero EV. you need about 50% FE, so imo a shove is huge -EV.

I don't think Blah meant that calling the 4bet with the top of your range was wrong, especially when the 4bet is a min re-raise and the opponent is going to put you on the depolarized value part of your range a lot i.e. AQo, AJs, KQs kind of hands because he thinks his small 4bet size induced the bottom of your value range to call him stead.

Don't 4bet the nit pre-flop, you got super lucky. The smallish 4bets are kind of stylistic, but you better be damn sure they are going to play passively when you do it because they aren't going to be making that big of a mistake when they just call to hit with better hands than you're bluffing them with. It's a really dangerous game you're playing there, because you want those depolarized value hands to fold vs your bluffs and you want the bottom of their 5bet range to have to shove into AK/TT (mainly AQ, but also AJs, KQs, 99-88)

kind of late to this party, but what made you think you should be 4b bluffing here at all? it's not completely out of the question v tight 3bettors, but you really need to see them show down some slowplayed value hands + 3b bluffs when they are this tight.

Because of CRE and good playability of A5s when called. Yeah but first I should watch their 3-bets closely in search of bluffs, so I can justify my bluff 4-bets.

Don't just believe me, I could just be some random donkey posting stuff on forums.

i mean, like, it doesn't even say you are a coach, so you must be some random donkey!

i mean, like, it doesn't even say you are a coach, so you must be some random donkey!

You're a random donkey too!

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