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Was just trying to think what sort of winrate given perfect play would be attainable at 10nl, anyone got any guesses?

Was just trying to think what sort of winrate given perfect play would be attainable at 10nl, anyone got any guesses?

Theres deinfately enough fish around to win consistently above 8+ BB/100, even higher 10-15

PTR would suggest about 7 I think

PTR would suggest about 7 I think

But PTR will only have 10nl players and they don't play the best.

Theres deinfately enough fish around to win consistently above 8+ BB/100, even higher 10-15

Is this big blinds or big bets?

Not NL10 but I did play a lot of nano for this thread: http://www.deucescracked.com/topics/236931-Yin-vs-Yang-Member-challe?forum_id=4-General-Discussion

Only results I could find in the thread: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2506/hands2r.jpg

Yeah I probably didn't add enough. 6 is the best. How much can you improve over that?

I just remembered I have blackrain79 dude's ebook, and he c&p his WRs, I think it's ok to put them here as he has them advertised openly too.

He has 14 for 2NL and 7 for 5NL, and 5.4 for 10NL. So how much would you add on to that seeing as he's a coach and instructor now? How much based on playing how many tables? He does play lots of tables at least at times.

Something I have in the back of my mind a lot, is just trying to play these stakes really seriously and see what I could win. The trouble is that there really isn't a lot of incentive for me to do this. Recently however I find myself bugged enough by posts like "never 3bet bluff at the micros" and similar that I really want to see what is possible at these stakes without just being completely ABC. Usually these feelings pass over somewhat fast though but within my recent studying bender I've just got this burning curiosity about it. And to be honest, as petty/bad as it is I do find myself wanting to "prove" some people wrong.

I just remembered I have blackrain79 dude's ebook, and he c&p his WRs, I think it's ok to put them here as he has them advertised openly too.

He has 14 for 2NL and 7 for 5NL, and 5.4 for 10NL. So how much would you add on to that seeing as he's a coach and instructor now? How much based on playing how many tables? He does play lots of tables at least at times.

What stakes does he usually play?

But PTR will only have 10nl players and they don't play the best.


Is this big blinds or big bets?

Big blinds

Something I have in the back of my mind a lot, is just trying to play these stakes really seriously and see what I could win. The trouble is that there really isn't a lot of incentive for me to do this. Recently however I find myself bugged enough by posts like "never 3bet bluff at the micros" and similar that I really want to see what is possible at these stakes without just being completely ABC. Usually these feelings pass over somewhat fast though but within my recent studying bender I've just got this burning curiosity about it. And to be honest, as petty/bad as it is I do find myself wanting to "prove" some people wrong.

You could easily win you would have to make some adjustments though. People 3bet bluff, not much 4bet bluffing going on. And not much 3barrel bluffing happening, usually peoples leaks are exagerated.

You could easily win you would have to make some adjustments though. People 3bet bluff, not much 4bet bluffing going on. And not much 3barrel bluffing happening, usually peoples leaks are exagerated.

I think peoples biggest mistakes will be post-flop.

I think peoples biggest mistakes will be post-flop.

This for sure.

Something I have in the back of my mind a lot, is just trying to play these stakes really seriously and see what I could win. The trouble is that there really isn't a lot of incentive for me to do this. Recently however I find myself bugged enough by posts like "never 3bet bluff at the micros" and similar that I really want to see what is possible at these stakes without just being completely ABC. Usually these feelings pass over somewhat fast though but within my recent studying bender I've just got this burning curiosity about it. And to be honest, as petty/bad as it is I do find myself wanting to "prove" some people wrong.


What stakes does he usually play?

He's played most of his hands at 2NL and 5NL actually (2.2 million, 1.8 million). IIRC he just played casually for a long long time and wasn't bothered about playing for money and happy for a small income from the game, then started coaching micros so carried on playing there.

Wow, that's absurd playing that many hands at those stakes.

He's played most of his hands at 2NL and 5NL actually (2.2 million, 1.8 million). IIRC he just played casually for a long long time and wasn't bothered about playing for money and happy for a small income from the game, then started coaching micros so carried on playing there.

yes, I remember when BlackRain79 (Canada) went over to Dragthebar. I used to read his blog, I was kind of excited to see a story about a micro guy climbing the ladder. He got really upset for people bashing him for not moving up (after grinding millions of hands), so he took his blog private.

About that time, one of the very successuful coaches (a leatherass prodigy) at DTB started coaching/staking him -- and he also became a video making coach. But he got his butt kicked at .25nl (after grinding .10nl) -- and almost immediately moved back down. He went off of his stake soon after, because he said he liked having his freedom of just grinding mass tables (using free table mgmt scripts) at the low micros.

Such a bummer. He basically had a silver plate handed to him -- free coaching and staking to move up -- but goes all the way back down to .02nl ? He defends himself by saying that he was very successful at 200nl, but that was in the ParyPoker days.

I used to play with him. How can a player avoid it, when he is playing so many tables.
He mass tables and value-bets the heck out of the nuts -- and runs. Rock/Nit.
Not really inspirational for people trying to move up. He could have been a really great story though.

You can check out the comments at PTR. He responds.
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/blackrain79

I definitely was surprised to see he has a book on his website.
I guess he has to make money some way.
But how is he the #1 Winner of all time. bb/100 ??