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Lelantos

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Ah yeah I see what you mean I'd like to have a monitor big enough to have 4 horizontally looking up and down on mine isn't fun for >2.

I seem to be able to do better at zoom than regular games after playing for a few hours, though I'm not sure why Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

EternityII

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Ok by the first few hands I think im going to opt out of zoom... maybe good for volume but I was autopiloting within 10 minutes, really dont think its going to help my game at all.

Anyway... do you think the majority of fish will remain in the normal game is move to zoom. I would say a lot will move to zoom right? all the gambling types?

Posted over 2 years ago

uselink

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any1 using pokertracker 3? and has been able to get it to work with Zoompoker?

I have read that i must to into the pokerstars configuration, and enable zoom poker.
but the thing is that it says "pokerstars seem not to be installed"

any1 knows what to do?
I have searched the web, but without succes

Posted over 2 years ago

stanmore

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I have tried this... seems exactly the same as Rush Poker with only cosmetic differences...

Does TiltWare not have a patent on this or something???

Posted over 2 years ago

inavacuum

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I thought they just trademarked "Rush Poker".

Posted over 2 years ago

huntse

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They had a patent but software patents are a complicated thing. The actual rush patent covers the system for matching players to tables. It's very likely stars match them in a different way and so don't infringe.

Software patents are total bollocks anyway. Anyone who has read their Turing knows that software is just mathematics. You may as well grant a patent on Gaussian elimination or something (actually I wish I owned that one).

Posted over 2 years ago

SavingForBenz

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I never played rush. But my concern would be that fish can now hand select better (!) Where as when they are playing normal games, they play anything. Zoom might allow them to be more disciplined. Either way I think the games will pretty much stay the same. Zoom might be good if you want to gamble up your bankroll,but in terms of becoming a better player, I'm not sure it'll help. But I don't know 'cos I didn't play poker when Rush was about.

Posted over 2 years ago

Luke00016

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They had a patent but software patents are a complicated thing. The actual rush patent covers the system for matching players to tables. It's very likely stars match them in a different way and so don't infringe.

Software patents are total bollocks anyway. Anyone who has read their Turing knows that software is just mathematics. You may as well grant a patent on Gaussian elimination or something (actually I wish I owned that one).



The patent system itself is undergoing a slow meltdown in the past several years. Companies frequently purchase other companies just for their patents and then use those patents to sue their competitors. Frequently, you'll find an entire shell company that was created just to purchase patents in bulk and then file lawsuits against anyone that may be infringing. Their entire business structure is built around buying other people's ideas and suing anyone using them. It's particularly bad in any technology or medical field.

Posted over 2 years ago

MayContainNuts

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hmm, after playing for a day I'm not the biggest fan. Feels a lot like playing a fruit machine (pokie/bandit).

Posted over 2 years ago

stanmore

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The patent system itself is undergoing a slow meltdown in the past several years. Companies frequently purchase other companies just for their patents and then use those patents to sue their competitors. Frequently, you'll find an entire shell company that was created just to purchase patents in bulk and then file lawsuits against anyone that may be infringing. Their entire business structure is built around buying other people's ideas and suing anyone using them. It's particularly bad in any technology or medical field.



Holy crap! That's a disgrace!

Posted over 2 years ago

EternityII

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The patent system itself is undergoing a slow meltdown in the past several years. Companies frequently purchase other companies just for their patents and then use those patents to sue their competitors. Frequently, you'll find an entire shell company that was created just to purchase patents in bulk and then file lawsuits against anyone that may be infringing. Their entire business structure is built around buying other people's ideas and suing anyone using them. It's particularly bad in any technology or medical field.



Everyday I lose a little faith in humanity! People suck!!

Posted over 2 years ago

identifier

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Tech patents are a horrendous minefield. There's a reason these companies get called patent trolls.

Posted over 2 years ago

identifier

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Re:zoom

I think it's fun but not at all good for my game. It also feels like there's a ton of 3betting going on, but I think it's in my head/due to playing more hands an hour.

Posted over 2 years ago

joel

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I've played about 6 hours over the last two days. My thoughts at this point:

- It's fun and addictive.
- I'm pretty certain it's bad for your game. Teaches you to play without thinking much, mainly focus on your own cards, etc. After the last zoom session I went back to a normal 6-max ring game, and found initially I distinctly struggled to recover my regular A-game.
- There does seem to be a lot of light 3betting, (a) because I'm getting 3bet a lot, and (b) because on almost every single occasion when I 4bet (at first only w/ KK+) the 3bettor folded. So I started 4betting light and got a lot of folds.

I wonder why good players would want to play zoom. Of course it's fun and all, but you distinctly diminish your skill edge v. weaker players, since there's no gameflow, no reads, no way to use a hud (at least for now, I use HEM 1 myself). So you mainly have to play your cards and an ABC game, fold overpairs and weaker to turn raises, etc.

It's pretty clear ABC poker makes money however. If you hit a set and someone else has top pair, you're mostly getting their stacks.

Another interesting feature is that after playing for a while, you typically run up a stack of several hundred BBs (I went up to 900 BBs). You then occasionally play with other players sitting on huge stacks. I'm not used to playing deep so this is interesting. Of course if you're uncomfortable with huge stacks you can rathole by leaving the table and re-buying in immediately after.

Posted over 2 years ago

Paully_V

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Just tried it. Not sure if I like it yet.

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