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on the turn your getting rediculous pot odds to call. 10.6 to 1. so you have to win about 1 out of every 11 times you call.
with even better odds on the river, and your read that he can be weak there, i think your definitely fine for both calls.

3 days after the OP, 22 pages on ITT. Wow did not expect that tbh because it's pretty straightforward to answer OP's question.

this thread makes me feel good about how I thought about poker when I first started out.

It also makes me feel good on another level. Poker will never die.

3 days after the OP, 22 pages on ITT. Wow did not expect that tbh because it's pretty straightforward to answer OP's question.

i have only 6... i feel emberassed but I read it all.

Merge Network Fun Step 1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15.00/t30.00 Blinds - 5 players - View hand 1684408
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BTN: t845.00 28.17 BBs
SB: t835.00 27.83 BBs
BB: t5180.00 172.67 BBs
UTG: t1865.00 62.17 BBs
Hero (CO): t1230.00 41 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is CO with T T
UTG calls t30, Hero raises to t90.00, 3 folds, UTG raises to t150.00, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t345) 7 4 Q (2 players)
UTG bets t30.00, Hero raises to t120.00, UTG calls t90

Turn: (t585) A (2 players)
UTG bets t30.00, Hero calls t30

River: (t645) 7 (2 players)
UTG bets t30.00, Hero calls t30

Final Pot: t705
UTG shows 9 K
Hero shows T T (Two Pair Tens and Sevens)
Hero wins t705.00

especially without any reads, how can anyone say this hand was played well? Starting with the raise on the flop. What can you expect most to call worse here with and continue to fire worse on turn and river? And the fact that op actually won the hand is results oriented and irrelevant. Looks like a "I'm tilted and ready to call my stack off to you know matter what!" play. And obv were not folding due to bet sizing, but flop raise is bad.

I actually think the raise is good because toppair+ is rarely donked and toppairs sometimes bigger but mindonks are usually complete air or draws or weakish pairs that sometimes do get mindonk/called

Villain didn't donk the flop. It was a cb. Disregarding that we know what villain ended up with, what worse do you expect villains to call a flop raise with? Most of the time, we are folding out bluffs and weak hands with a raise which really isn't what we want. We'd rather get value from them than fold them out.

oh, totally misread the action
but I do think that most weakish pairs like 7x 88-TT do call a raise (and if they were to fold they'd fold turn also) and I think most l/3bets are some sort of broadways and I dont think someone who mincbets is going to bet the turn or river any larger if he's bluffing now so I dont really want him to stick around with his 6outers and make him call with his whatever pairs (dont think he's gonna pay off on T> and heart turns either)

And regarding pre flop (limp re-raise), you put villains range as weakish pairs 7x 88-10?

that said tho, without any other reads villain bets small to induce a raise for value, and now paying attention to the bet size to pot ratio, i really dont mind a flop raise either. villains usually bet this small when weak or to induce. i'd like it much better tho if i had air and not a bluff catcher only because with air i need a fold and with a bluff catcher i can get value from villains air or weak pair that i otherwise woudlnt.

OP next time you post hand histories, make sure you dont post the results. You don't want people to be results oriented when analyzing a hand. Maybe someone else will explain why to you.

especially without any reads, how can anyone say this hand was played well? Starting with the raise on the flop. What can you expect most to call worse here with and continue to fire worse on turn and river? And the fact that op actually won the hand is results oriented and irrelevant. Looks like a "I'm tilted and ready to call my stack off to you know matter what!" play. And obv were not folding due to bet sizing, but flop raise is bad.

He did have a read on his opponent. He said that he had seen his opponent go all-in with 72 earlier. I think that he played the hand fine.

He put his money in early but exercised pot control later in the hand so as not to get driven out of the hand. His opponent was representing a big hand but johnontilt didn't believe it because of the villain's earlier play. Nevertheless against a maniac it is real important not to pay off their big hands. Calling down the turn and river was fine under those circumstances.

He did have a read on his opponent. He said that he had seen his opponent go all-in with 72 earlier. I think that he played the hand fine.

He put his money in early but exercised pot control later in the hand so as not to get driven out of the hand. His opponent was representing a big hand but johnontilt didn't believe it because of the villain's earlier play. Nevertheless against a maniac it is real important not to pay off their big hands. Calling down the turn and river was fine under those circumstances.

read my next post. of course we are calling with that size bet into the pot. would be dumb to fold. and i guess i missed his read.

He did have a read on his opponent. He said that he had seen his opponent go all-in with 72 earlier. I think that he played the hand fine.

He put his money in early but exercised pot control later in the hand so as not to get driven out of the hand. His opponent was representing a big hand but johnontilt didn't believe it because of the villain's earlier play. Nevertheless against a maniac it is real important not to pay off their big hands. Calling down the turn and river was fine under those circumstances.

in fact, disregard my entire post here. i wasn't paying attention to bet sizing vs pot or anything. i mentioned that a couple posts later. my fault.

ok i think i did this right. bring on the criticizm....could i have played it better? did I play it terribly? whats your opinion? one more hand coming....

Merge Network Fun Step 1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15.00/t30.00 Blinds - 5 players - View hand 1684405
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CO: t935.00 31.17 BBs
BTN: t925.00 30.83 BBs
SB: t5720.00 190.67 BBs
BB: t1445.00 48.17 BBs
Hero (UTG): t930.00 31 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to t90.00, 2 folds, SB calls t75, BB calls t60

Flop: (t270) 5 8 Q (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets t30.00, Hero raises to t120.00, SB calls t120, BB calls t90

Turn: (t630) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets t30.00, Hero calls t30, SB calls t30

River: (t720) K (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t180.00, SB calls t180, BB folds

Final Pot: t1080
SB mucks 9 8
Hero shows Q Q (Three of a Kind Queens)
Hero wins t1080.00

great to see you finally won a pot Jon
but you wonder why you get blinded down and people catch cards on you this is a perfect example
at the turn the pot is 630 a bet of 30 from bb and just a call??? 30 into a 630 pot? tells me he is weak or hoping to see the river cheap and catch ? maybe the heart that woud beat you...with the chips you have left after your bets at this stage is getting low. you have to protect them by not letting them see the river cheap..also at the river you have 590 left against the chip laeder who 5 time the chips of everyone else. you bet 180. you should have gone all in im sure if he is still in he would call cause of his big stack.....and the level your playing free...
if you had A Q im sure you would have played it the same way and say sb had K 8 you would have let him catch up .
when you get trips of any kind at this level against the chip leader you have to be able to double up or not let then catch a heart . remember at these levels oftern the chip leaders will stay in the pots with weak hands