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Acombfosho

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Basically summing this all up I think the strongest position for the 9/11 truthers is focusing on the anomalies in the attack and not the amount of people in relevant fields who support this or attacking the the official story (outside the tower dynamics) as implausible as in my eyes this really weakens the position which is why I was a little confused why you were posting those links.



Fair point and dully noted.

I want to make something clear. I don't want to convince you, or anyone else, that it was an inside job. That is my opinion and in general that's unimportant.

What I do want is an enquiry that actually answers all of the questions, so that then people like myself can actually rest. It is the unanswered questions which are the most haunting. And it reveals a lot in and of itself. However, speculation due to the silence is exactly why people like myself are concerned and questioning the official story. If everything the government said was true, all they have to do is release the information to the public and it is game, set and match. It is not entertaining to think that we have a 'democracy' that does not actively participate in public discourse.

Also, focusing on the anomalies in the attack.. first time NORAD didnt manage to intercept a plane.. first time that war drills simulating the exact same events happening were occurring real world... first time that 110 story buildings are dustified but paper passports are found... first time five dancing Israelis.. oh. wait. lets. look. the. other. way.

Posted about 1 year ago

Acombfosho

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This statement is false - out of all the things I have now seen and read there are no evidence that the Twin Towers collapsed faster in any way than due to the plane damage around the 80th floors. The WTC7 is most likely caused also by the damage of debrie and fires, it is harder to explain but it did not exceed any freefall speed and I find it way more likely to be caused by something like the failure of one critical column as mentioned in some reports. No physical conservation law was compromised or gravity exceeded.
Very clearly some people want there to be a conspiracy present in the collapse but Free Energy or 10 times the amount of energy present is just incredibly implausible.
Really questionable politics occurred in the wake of the disaster and this is going to help fan some crazy theories,



Alright, fair enough. I disagree, but I respect your opinion.

Posted about 1 year ago

Acombfosho

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and now for a commercial break

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJYxCSXjhLI&t=1m52s







we now resume your regularly scheduled programming



nawhead, it sure is wonderful that you are no longer active in this topic other than to try to ridicule it. Thanks for strengthening the argument I have been trying to make.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer

Wink

Posted about 1 year ago

nawhead

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how am i back at the first stage? i'm pretty sure i went through violent opposition already.

the stages i went through were

1. ambivalence
2. interest
3. violent opposition
4. ridicule

Posted about 1 year ago

Acombfosho

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Well, you are a little retarded so.. maybe you have trouble following the way things really work to their logical conclusion. Wink

Obviously that was a joke. Sorry to derail, just find this highly amusing at the moment. I find it amazing that you actually believe the people who have shafted us all for the past 12+ years.

Keep on keeping on

also, edit this- take a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jfu0nVjjs0&feature=related and really you think that there was no outside 'help' from US/Israeli government agents?

Broadly speaking, there are two sides.

One side absolutely agrees with the official (9/11 commission report) account, (it appears you do) and the other side thinks that we haven't actually found out even one tenth of the whole picture (my persuasion).

I am not comfortable with believing the official version of events because frankly, they (the US govt) have proven themselves to be absolute fucks on all other issues.

I can understand why the patriotism nod is being given in this regard though 'It would never happen in our country'' etc...

Posted about 1 year ago

nawhead

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Acombfosho

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Acombfosho 30 nawhead 24

no 4th or 5th round needed.

Posted about 1 year ago

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Acombfosho

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game, set, match.

cheers

Implying that all I am saying is 'noise' - you did well didn't you. Congrats. I wish I had a picture

Posted about 1 year ago

nawhead

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i pulled out my trump card too soon. now i'm out of links. i think you won this one.

Posted about 1 year ago

Acombfosho

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haha.. anyway. nawhead, I want to say although we disagree on this particular matter, you are a worthy adversary. As an ENTJ I find debate highly entertaining, and as such enjoy the discourse as a kind of sport. We need to find weekly topics to disagree/debate upon, I would find it very amusing. Peace

Posted about 1 year ago

nawhead

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methinks "the truth" entertains you too much. the world is much more ordinary that you assume. but alas, i have failed the test. so this is the end of me.

but oh! we do have one last link to send us out in good old fashioned musical style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMjfw9rznrs

Posted about 1 year ago

Acombfosho

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You down for starting a podcast, maybe once a month? The listeners decide the topic and we ramble on forever.. only condition is that I can't talk about 9/11 and you can't talk about HFLC! It'd be fun Poke Tongue

Posted about 1 year ago

Acombfosho

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I take the three day silence on the podcast as a No.. Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t453tFWNCI

Am I watching a different video from you? Why is it you actually trust the government who have presented no evidence. At all. Who at the same time have sent the economy into hell. While at the same time made billions/trillions from the 'war on terror' which only exists due to the event in September 2001.

And for clarification, I don't mean to say that everybody who is an elected official is involved when I talk about government. I am referring to the higher ups, especially those who have a heavy interest in the military industrial complex, halliburton, chevron, carlyle group, AIPEC etc.

Posted about 1 year ago

nawhead

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the only replies on this topic you're going to get from me from now on are personal attacks. is that cool with you?

you're a tool.

you repeat the same weak arguments and don't respond to criticisms. the only thing resembling acknowledging errors of omission or commission are multiple insincere "i'm open to being wrong's." you throw around this phrase as often as possible, and yet you make no real attempts to address any flaws in your perfect vision of what happened that day. you've repeatedly shown yourself to be nothing more than a mouthpiece who's not interested in conscientious debate. you've lost all credibility in my eyes. and that is why i ridicule you.

and when you say you think the American govt is the most evil thing on the face of this earth and then turn around and say you don't hate Americans and even have American friends, you sound just like a racist rationalizing his hatred of a race.

so bugger off, kid.

Posted about 1 year ago




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