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I'll wait till you read the methods...

I have interests in both nutrition and humor.

this'll be fun.

Doesn't anybody care about my undiagnosed life threatening medical condition?

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on second thought... *rubs chin* do i really want to debate with someone who's first post itt was "facepalm.jpg" ????

nah, i'm gonna go watch Jim Jefferies, have a beer and go to bed.
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you win.

Doesn't anybody care about my undiagnosed life threatening medical condition?

Only if we can exploit it.

are you saying exercise is a figment of people's imaginations? working out doesn't build and tone muscles? running everyday doesn't build cardiovascular fitness to run faster and longer?

what exactly is the argument here? i'm totally confused.

No, I'm saying that basically sitting on the couch is like potential energy and going out to work out is kinetic energy. IE, just because you did 3 things you didn't do before, it's not evidence that you have more energy. It's just evidence you're doing something instead of nothing.

i just realized i do agree with you guys. but i have to go evolutionary perspective to explain.

let me define what i think health is not.

health isn't bench pressing your body weight
health isn't running 100m sprints

if you put the world's strongest man and the world's fastest man out in the wild, they'll still be too slow to run away from predators or too weak to fight with predators.

since improving either of these markers gives us no real survival advantage, evolution wouldn't have selected for it.

so doing these things "for health" wouldn't make sense for us.

what we are good at, however, is running for distance.

we are bipedal (unique in animal kingdom)
we are hairless and sweat to cool our bodies (unique in animal kingdom)

you don't want to be bipedal if you want speed; you want to be close to the ground.

you don't need a a water-cooling system if you just want to run short distances, panting will suffice.

and if we're running animals, health isn't carrying excess body weight. it offsets our balance and costs too much energy.

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but that's all i got for now. i got sidetracked reading about bipedalism.
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/the_running_man_revisited/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipedalism#Advantages

So all we had to do was run away from something when we where afraid? We never had to fight with other people and/or animals? Never had to lift heavy things? Like taking home a bison?

'sorry woman, no food tonight, I couldnt drag the damn beast home'

Compound exercises, train hard, take sprints, sometimes do endurance.

There is no denieing that our overall 'edge' on the animal kingdom was endurance running tho. In general we hunted by wounding beasts and following them till they succumbed to the wounds.

lol @ edge

Only if we can exploit it.

http://m.askmen.com/top_10/celebrity/lessons-from-jack-donaghy.html#3

No, I'm saying that basically sitting on the couch is like potential energy and going out to work out is kinetic energy. IE, just because you did 3 things you didn't do before, it's not evidence that you have more energy. It's just evidence you're doing something instead of nothing.

by that logic, if i lie in bed for a long enough time, i should be able to run a marathon.

we're talking biology here, not the physics of inanimate objects.

So all we had to do was run away from something when we where afraid? We never had to fight with other people and/or animals? Never had to lift heavy things? Like taking home a bison?

'sorry woman, no food tonight, I couldnt drag the damn beast home'

1. someone who could drag/carry a whole bison home still couldn't kill it
1a. we've been predating game long before the invention of weapons
2. someone who could drag/carry a whole bison home couldn't outrun it
2a. trying to carry a prize long distance like this is a huge waste of energy
3. we're group animals, we don't hunt alone


and running man is just a theory, but it doesn't account for all our evolution. we went upright first, then we got really good at running. so what's the advantage of going bipedal?

i'm starting to be fond of the warning display theory, and in turn, our intinct to bluff.

Bluffing lions

... still, how do you cut up the animal without knives? maybe just wait for the lions to tear it apart first? this is why talking evolutionary biology is so damn difficult.

None of our human advantages are physical. We have zero edge over pretty much any animal in physical terms. We are the slowest, weakest, least able to cope with elements of nature like cold and even bacteria/viruses.

Our advantage is our brains- we create things which it turns out is a massive advantage.

My dog can outrun me, swim for hours in 34 degree water, and she ate a pound of rotten sausage from the garbage the other day and is fine. Those last two things would kill any human.

tbh, and not trying to sound insulting, but the people that run marathons I always feel they look very unhealthy. Skinny, and weak..altough they can run really long distances.

On the other hand, the dude that run the sprints, or the pro athlete in the NFL, or the MMA fighter..look pretty damn strong to me

but thats just perspective and very much 'my opinion'.

None of our human advantages are physical. We have zero edge over pretty much any animal in physical terms. We are the slowest, weakest, least able to cope with elements of nature like cold and even bacteria/viruses.

we evolved in the savanna. and there's little harm in eating fresh kill raw. lots of cultures still do it as a delicacy. and ever heard of sushi?

and again, we run distance as good as the best animals. our distance running ability is not a theory. what it's good for is up for debate, however.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon

I always just feel like running distance is so boring. Anything over a few miles for me and I feel like I'm wasting my time. I guess it would be different if you are running for survival, but I'm not, so no marathons for me...