chrisanagno
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bottom left table.being 140BB deep do u think there is merit having a value and bluff smallraise range here?what do u think of villains range for raising the flop c/r ?imo he is getting good pot and implied odds to flat the flop c/r with gutshots,draws so either he folds to a reraise or goes AI..given that he is not a player that easily spazzs out to a reraise i think there is more merit to flat + he will fire lot of his range ott and otr.what do u think of this.?also how would take into account for future hands the fact that he raised/fold fcr
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On the 22897 board, when he gets check raised with 6 9, it seems like a pretty weird spot to bluff. Hero overbet the turn, which he hadn't been doing much at all. The only hand I could really see villain bluffing with here is ace 8 with the nut flush blocker. He doesn't have any ace highs with no pairs. He did use the nut flush blocker in that previous river check raise. Hero already caught him river check raise bluffing once, I think it would be unlikely that try it again as a bluff in a spot where we overbet the turn. We could have a boat here quite often already. The turn overbet makes bluffing the river kinda crazy methinks. I think he has the nut flush here quite often.
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zachd2323
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On the 22897 board, when he gets check raised with 6 9, it seems like a pretty weird spot to bluff. Hero overbet the turn, which he hadn't been doing much at all. The only hand I could really see villain bluffing with here is ace 8 with the nut flush blocker. He doesn't have any ace highs with no pairs. He did use the nut flush blocker in that previous river check raise. Hero already caught him river check raise bluffing once, I think it would be unlikely that try it again as a bluff in a spot where we overbet the turn. We could have a boat here quite often already. The turn overbet makes bluffing the river kinda crazy methinks. I think he has the nut flush here quite often.
Yeah I was actually thinking the same thing. Given that he showed a bluff not too long ago in a similar spot, he might be less likely to bluff here. Not sure if this is true, though. I don't play 5/10 and these players are clearly on a higher level than me.
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WiltOnTilt
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bottom left table.being 140BB deep do u think there is merit having a value and bluff smallraise range here?what do u think of villains range for raising the flop c/r ?imo he is getting good pot and implied odds to flat the flop c/r with gutshots,draws so either he folds to a reraise or goes AI..given that he is not a player that easily spazzs out to a reraise i think there is more merit to flat + he will fire lot of his range ott and otr.what do u think of this.?also how would take into account for future hands the fact that he raised/fold fcr
listening back to it, I really didn't mention just flat calling. I agree that is definitely a viable option and something I should have taken the time to flesh out on the video. I kind of like still having a smallish flop c/r value/bluff range vs 100% button openers who cbet a lot, until they adjust. It's true this guy cbetting a reasonable 66% frequency.
I'm not sure I totally agree with the idea that if we flat he will fire a bunch of his range on the turn and river. I think when we c/r and call it looks like we have either a value hand that doesn't want to play for stacks on the flop (QJ/KJ/etc) or some kind of decent semibluff that isn't ready to fold for the price (maybe bare fd, 9T, etc). Given that, I think it's a bit unclear which turns/rivers he would choose to keep bluffing. If we had a better read on how he views certain situations where draws brick or his bet sizing with value hands/bluffs, we could make a better determination. That said, flatting the flop 3bet could still be the best play, it's just hard to know for sure.
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WiltOnTilt
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upper right table given the turn overbet dynamic what hands are u overbetting here.?u said about KQ but what about pair+draw hands.Given that villain prob never raises Kx dont think pair+draw(67,86 etc) has more equity than KQ and how would u play that?
I'm a little confused by what you mean with 86 and 67 having more equity than KQ... do you mean equity when raised? I don't think we're getting raised that much on this turn really... even by 78, and it's pretty hard for him to have a straight given preflop and flop.
I could definitely get behind the overbet with some pair+straight draw like 54 and 56 and maybe 67. It would also depend on what we think he's doing with his Kx hands on the river... ie can we start a plan for a river 3barrel here by getting him to fold 7x and 5x on the turn and get him off most of his Kx on the river?
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WiltOnTilt
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top right.What do you think about 4bet?I guess with this stack size rabble could flat more,so our fold equity isn't that high so we should wait for a little better hand?Should we 4bet A4s?
I think this is a good spot to 4bet. with stacks like this, i'd rather just flat call A4s, generally...but against a guy who loves to flat 4bets, you could do it.
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It seemed to me like both players decided to deal it twice pre-flop and then the software dealt the flop once and the turn and river twice. If so, that's not really what I would expect unless we get all-in after the flop...
yea, it's a joke.
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