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Love how this thread turned into a debate over what yo ushould eat and shouldn't. All he wants are tips lol

Eat what makes your body feel beast while playing, only way to actually find what works best for you is to experience and annalyse. I myself just try not to eat too much red meat before hand. But I myself can play live poker for 2 days str8 drinking str8 water so.

We are all different..

Why is sugar not good for people?

I'm actually quite intrigued; I'm assuming your health conscience, yet you don't eat fruit, or much of it, what does your diet consist of?

read the comments here: http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7221-Episode-Six

n0whereman is wicked smart.

read the comments here: http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7221-Episode-Six

n0whereman is wicked smart.

I'm solidly on team Travis. When someone starts screaming "I'm a scientist, I'm a scientist", he loses credibility in my eyes right from the get go. I think of all the scientists who have marched through Rush Limbaugh's studio proving to us all with their individual studies that global warming is just a liberal conspiracy.

For those who think that they can long term get most of their energy from protein, I have an extra kidney that I'm willing to sell them for the right price (its not going to be cheap) when that fateful day comes.

Nonetheless, I'd be willing to bet every dollar I had that fruit is very important for optimal health even getting 3:1 and I reckon it'd be very +ev still, so arrogant I am in this regards.

Up until a few hundred years ago fruit was seasonal. 99% of modern humans went for months at a time with no fruit at all, nor am I aware of any studies showing that regular intake of fruit plays any important role in diet that can't be achieved through other common sources.

2 Fruit a day is a very foreign concept to the type of diet we've grown up on, evolutionary speaking.

I get your perspective that an orange is better than a chocolate bar, but saying things like "fruit is designed to be used as energy and not stored as fat" is plain wrong. Like I said before fructose has the fastest pathways to fat and has to be contained to certain levels in the bloodstream (protein and fat can remain there in much more varied levels) with the excess very easily being taken up into fat.

But yeah I understand with these things people have their ideas and generally stay with them so it's been fun and I'm out.

Actually people have been drying fruit, grain and vegetables, for winter use, for thousands of years and supplementing that supply with that obtained from trade. When sailors sailed the seas on extended voyages without fruits or vegetables, things did not go so well for them. Sugar is in fact sugar but fruits provide a lot of necessary micronutrients and substances like pectin that are really important to health. Also the increase in life expectancy that we have today might have something to do with better access to seasonal foods.

I'm solidly on team Travis. When someone starts screaming "I'm a scientist, I'm a scientist", he loses credibility in my eyes right from the get go.

Please explain to us your research methodology

I swear, diet stuff has to be the biggest head fuck to go through, soooo many biases. I'm somewhat of a vegan, and by following such a "radical" diet one gets to see all the delights of peoples stupidity with the matter. One guy told me that vegetarians live less, and he and all their mates were patronizing me ever since, his source, MSN news feeder -_- I than told him I've read many times that vegetarians actually live longer(to be fair I'm not implying eating meat is unhealthy, more so that vegetarians tend to be more health conscience, they have to be or else they become very sick, so they generally have less processed junk in their diets + I think, at least in a heavy meat eating society such as Australia, that the average person eats way too much meat for it to be healthy, going by how our ancestors lived and some stuff I've read, but seriously what can anyone trust in this stuff? On one side there's the meat lovers who don't want to feel like an a-hole so they come up with bs justifications, seriously prefer if they just admitted they like their meat butwhatever, and than on the other side there's bleeding heart vegetarians who have motives to lie to convert people to their cause, ugh)


I also have a suspicion that how people view this stuff is horribly flawed, by breaking it down to the foods largest fundamentals i.e protein fibre fats. The body consumes these in regards to how they've been taken in with, like with vitamin tablets not being so effective without it with everything else and people not being able to use most of the calcium in cows milk because of it being too low(high?) in I think it's phosphorous, and it's missing out on so much of the smaller stuff.


My plan for this:

eat whole foods and little processed foods. Probably gonna try to eat less grains and more vegetables, only found out the other day that the pasta I've been buying is white flour, ugh whatever, gonna stick with the fruit because I see no reason not to, their good for energy/nutrients and our ancestors ate lots of them

For those who think that they can long term get most of their energy from protein, I have an extra kidney that I'm willing to sell them for the right price (its not going to be cheap) when that fateful day comes.

This is kind of what I was saying about how people are analyzing it. Let's assume people think "proteins are good! need proteins" so they think of protein rich food they like, usually some sort of meat, and they eat lots and lots of it. Probably gonna get a somewhat deserved flame since I said I was a somewhat vegan(biases anyone?) but I'm fairly eating lots of meats is unhealthy, increases cancer rates and isn't good for digestion, other people who have being on the protein=good band wagon, usually when body building, proceed to eat lots of cheap processed meats like sausages, coooome on. Same with carbohydrates, people think, carbohydrates are good for whatever!! So they proceed to eat lots of white bread/rice/pasta. Or calcium with milk. Shit seriously this stuff is igniting that old desire to become some sort of food scientist, breaking this stuff down and figuring it out, and then pull my hair out whenever somebody talks about weight watchers

Up until a few hundred years ago fruit was seasonal. 99% of modern humans went for months at a time with no fruit at all, nor am I aware of any studies showing that regular intake of fruit plays any important role in diet that can't be achieved through other common sources.

2 Fruit a day is a very foreign concept to the type of diet we've grown up on, evolutionary speaking.

I get your perspective that an orange is better than a chocolate bar, but saying things like "fruit is designed to be used as energy and not stored as fat" is plain wrong. Like I said before fructose has the fastest pathways to fat and has to be contained to certain levels in the bloodstream (protein and fat can remain there in much more varied levels) with the excess very easily being taken up into fat.

But yeah I understand with these things people have their ideas and generally stay with them so it's been fun and I'm out.

Really, fruit was seasonal? Surely there was fruit through all seasons though??

So confused than, if we didn't eat much meat, didn't eat much vegetables, didin't eat much fruit, than what did we eat!?!?

Have you got any evidence about the bloodstream fruit thing? It goes against what I believe, but to be frank it's just dogma....

Why the stab at WeightWatchers? They have based their programs on the science you talk about and have no doubt saved many lives.

Actually people have been drying fruit, grain and vegetables, for winter use, for thousands of years and supplementing that supply with that obtained from trade. When sailors sailed the seas on extended voyages without fruits or vegetables, things did not go so well for them. Sugar is in fact sugar but fruits provide a lot of necessary micronutrients and substances like pectin that are really important to health. Also the increase in life expectancy that we have today might have something to do with better access to seasonal foods.

Unless that thousands of years is like 10+, we wouldn't have had time to evolve to that so it's pretty disregarded

So confused than, if we didn't eat much meat, didn't eat much vegetables, didin't eat much fruit, than what did we eat!?!?

Insects and worms.

Why the stab at WeightWatchers? They have based their programs on the science you talk about and have no doubt saved many lives.

Because they preach these fast weight loss programs that aren't sustainable so that they set them up for a high success rate of failure so that they get more business out of each client + it's not about health whatsoever, eat artificial sugar because it's less fattening sdofnwdocjnwifu and they call themselves nutritionists!! My mother went on it, she bought some of their special weight watcher food, one of them had MSG in it, which increases one's desire to eat more(amongst other horrid things)!! This is what happens to mouse when they are given the same food, one with MSG one without, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fatmouse.jpg So full on work the guilt trip on their cliets, "the reason why you can't lose weight and keep it is because you have no self control, you just can't stop eating, it's not our fault it's you" When their maximizing the chances that will happen! Seriously fucks me off that these ass-holes haven't being lynched and can actually run a business like this, and some many people think, gotta lose weight, need support, go to weight watchers when it's a scam, probably the same way nowhereman feels towards his field

study done by a vegetarian college professor from California. doesn't get more liberal bias than this:
The Battle of the Diets: Is Anyone Winning (At Losing?)

(awesome) carnivore propaganda:
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-library/are-we-meat-eaters-or-vegetarians-part-ii/

My plan for this:

eat whole foods and little processed foods. Probably gonna try to eat less grains and more vegetables, only found out the other day that the pasta I've been buying is white flour, ugh whatever, gonna stick with the fruit because I see no reason not to, their good for energy/nutrients and our ancestors ate lots of them

actually, not bad. better than 99% of most people's diets. but it's a bit of a cop-out to say "oh it's too complicated, i'm just doing X" tho. this is your life. not politics, not careers, not french history, this is your actual living breathing life. it's the only one you're going to get. if it behooves anyone to put some time into a subject, this is it.

They don't preach fast weight loss at all, quite the reverse. Its even been used by the National Health Service in the UK as a cost-effective way of tackling obesity. I imagine the WW products is a business arm in itself and looking to make money in its own way. I am not that surprised to hear there are problems with it, but the program can be followed without buying any of those products.