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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Grindcore (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:22:07

Were you planning on calling a shove from the short stack with AJo here?

Time Link to 00:37:01

I noticed that you opened 77 for 4x UTG this time, but earlier you opened a more junky hand (9To iirc) UTG for 3x on the right hand table. Are you varying your raise size according to hand strength or was it an accident?

Were you planning on calling a shove from the short stack with AJo here?

Yes. Though I'm not exactly sure what his range is there at NL100, at higher stakes it's a stackoff and it's not even remotely close.

Not for BB v CO minraises, but check it out regardless. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56/medium-stakes-pl-nl/almost-optimal-pushing-calling-ranges-20bb-btnvsbb-battle-524398/

I noticed that you opened 77 for 4x UTG this time, but earlier you opened a more junky hand (9To iirc) UTG for 3x on the right hand table. Are you varying your raise size according to hand strength or was it an accident?

Accident, I talked about open raise sizes from EP in the video. With my normal TAG game I open 4x from EP and UTG but with the style in this video I should make it 3x. I just auto-pilot opened 4x with a good hand as I'm so used to it.

Good video! keep up the work.

Can you tell me how you layed out your HUD, is it
# of hands/?
VPIP/PFR/3b%/Ft3b/?
AF/cb/f2cbf2secondbarrel/f2riverbet?

Good video! keep up the work.

Can you tell me how you layed out your HUD, is it
# of hands/?
VPIP/PFR/3b%/Ft3b/?
AF/cb/f2cbf2secondbarrel/f2riverbet?

name/hands
VPIP/PFR/AF/AFq/steal
3b/f3b/squeeze/cbet/fcbet


Sorry, I realized I forgot this after I finished the video so I wanted to be the first to reply to the video with this, but forgot

He's never c/mr folding for value

Wow, that statement is pretty bold, and wrong In my opinion. Although I cannot know what my villains have been folding, but over the last few years of playing, Ive seen plenty of times where a fish has ch/lmr and then tank/folding in similiar spots. My guess it isn't always hollywood tankning. Keep in mind that you were 120ish bb deep, and that the board was dry as a 7 year old girl's XXXXX.

I tend to agree somewhat with what pr0wler said here:

but I find a fish is often doing that to "see where they're at" as opposed to doing it for value. He raises with the intention of folding if he gets played back at, but if you make the raise small enough (say to like $35 or $40) he won't be able to fold

I would agree that sometimes jamming looks stronger, but in my eyes that is more true as the board gets more wet.

I'm not saying that making a smaller 3b is superior to jamming. But to state that he NEVER would check/limitraise/fold for value would be to overestimate the precision of your reads of peoples tendencies after the relatively small total hands you have played (judging from the graph from the previous video). IMO =)

Albeit, I really like your vids and analysis so far, and am looking forward to seeing more!

Time Link to 00:07:37

isnt it much better to c/r this type of hand since if he is cbetting his entire range the least amount of outs he has i 6 and aloot of turncards will force you to c/f..

Time Link to 00:23:19

Don't agree that the call of the shorty is horrible. He opens 2bb, you 3bet 5bb so he has to call 3bb to win 9bb. If you're 3betting range is wide - and presumably it is - he can easily call here with anything reasonable, play fit or fold, and still make a profit.

Don't agree that the call of the shorty is horrible. He opens 2bb, you 3bet 5bb so he has to call 3bb to win 9bb. If you're 3betting range is wide - and presumably it is - he can easily call here with anything reasonable, play fit or fold, and still make a profit.

Hmm I kinda auto-pecked it as bad because none of the pro shorties do it. But alot of them have leaks. I guess it can be good with this specific hand. That poses a problem though, because his callingrange is gonna be fairly face up as JTs-ish hands and I have an easy time bluffing or avoiding bad bluffs postflop. If he wants to balance his callingrange he's gonna have to flat with hands from his shoving range, thus weakening that, allowing me to call his jams lighter thus 3b him more.

isnt it much better to c/r this type of hand since if he is cbetting his entire range the least amount of outs he has i 6 and aloot of turncards will force you to c/f..

But I'm not planning to c/f alot of turncards. If anything a bad card will make him more likely to bluff. By check-raising I just get called by all his pairs, open myself up to draw reraises, etc. Yeah I (likely) fold out air but then I might aswell checkraise this board with all my air myself. I'd rather checkraise for value/(semi)bluff and cbet or c/c with mere showdown value. Yes, it will put me in harder spots and checkraising makes the hand easier to play, but you shouldn't take a lower EV line just because it's easier if you're capable of handling the harder spots. If a flop c/c will put you in a spot where you don't really know what you're doing and you might make mistakes, then don't do it.

Wow, that statement is pretty bold, and wrong In my opinion. Although I cannot know what my villains have been folding, but over the last few years of playing, Ive seen plenty of times where a fish has ch/lmr and then tank/folding in similiar spots. My guess it isn't always hollywood tankning. Keep in mind that you were 120ish bb deep, and that the board was dry as a 7 year old girl's XXXXX.

If fish want to find out where they're at with a hand less than top pair, they usually donkbet. The other line they take is c/c. c/mr is usually top pair+ or air in my experience, and they never fold top pair. But both raise sizes are pretty equal in EV I think. I might get him to continue with a slightly wider range maybe by raising small, but I'll also miss some action if an ace rolls off or something on the turn then.

But I'm not planning to c/f alot of turncards. If anything a bad card will make him more likely to bluff. By check-raising I just get called by all his pairs, open myself up to draw reraises, etc. Yeah I (likely) fold out air but then I might aswell checkraise this board with all my air myself. I'd rather checkraise for value/(semi)bluff and cbet or c/c with mere showdown value. Yes, it will put me in harder spots and checkraising makes the hand easier to play, but you shouldn't take a lower EV line just because it's easier if you're capable of handling the harder spots. If a flop c/c will put you in a spot where you don't really know what you're doing and you might make mistakes, then don't do it.

i really dont agree with this, the worst part oh his range has like 6outs, and i just hink you have to little equity to c/c this. without betting initiative and beeing oop this cant be +ev... imo

i really dont agree with this, the worst part oh his range has like 6outs, and i just hink you have to little equity to c/c this. without betting initiative and beeing oop this cant be +ev... imo

Well, c/f is a horrible line, and c/r is not good for reasons I already posted. So it's a c/c or a cbet. If I cbet I put in 1 bet. If I c/c I also put in 1 bet. So the same ammount of money goes in. But when I cbet, he'll continue with a tighter range than when I check. So I put in an equal ammount of money, but I get more value. It also takes away his ability to (semi)bluffraise me. c/c just results in harder turn/river spots, but I think I'm equipped to handle them. If I wasn't, c/c would be bad. Harder doesn't mean lower EV.

Haven't watched it all yet, but there was a mistake in my opinion early on. It's not an important spot, but when you RR AJo vs the short stack and he calls, you decided to attempt to check it down and assume that he would bluff (22mins in). Maybe it's a difference between our playing styles, but I prefer just cbetting 3/4ths. The reason is when you go for a check call there he has 2 cards, so 24% equity or so against you, and if you do get all the money in you're never way ahead. Also, once you check a hand like this in this spot, you're not checking to fold it.

I'm pretty sure, although I haven't done the math on it, that if you try to bluff catch with this hand in this spot his equity makes a cbet better. Now, at high stakes I could imagine the SS's bluffing way more than average, but I think it's still going to be tough to make an ace high hand a better bluff catcher on the flop/turn than a cbet. I think unless you're against someone you know is aggressive, at these stakes your standard approach should be to assume passivity from SSers. If you assume passivity, most weak hands including some weaker pairs should be cbets. After thinking about all that, I'm pretty confident that A high shouldn't be bluff catching flops without history. Of course, IP it's a whole different story.