gondor
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thanks, glad u enjoyed it 
but all that being said, i think u can get away w/ being unbalanced here for a while w/out people really catching on/adjusting for it.
Thats the point i wanted to discuss
If I call when i hit and raise when i miss it will be easy for villain to reship and exploit me... but then we have to raise/call with our Toppairhands on turn untill he is adjusting again.
thanks for the reply
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SomethingSpecial
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If you get called in the first KJ hand.. will u ship a lot of river or is it more as a 1 barrel bluff?
an dhow do I add timestamp ?
And why is there no HUD in your movies? I know you say whats important but I like to see it as well 
BUT 1 of the best serie i saw lately on any coachingsite!
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chipchucker5
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If you get called in the first KJ hand.. will u ship a lot of river or is it more as a 1 barrel bluff?
an dhow do I add timestamp ?
And why is there no HUD in your movies? I know you say whats important but I like to see it as well 
BUT 1 of the best serie i saw lately on any coachingsite!
Im planning on shutting down on river..the turn c/r is def profitable in and of itself.
My HUD is not up there because I'm using a HH replayer program to show you guys the hands and it's can't handle that type of information. To timestamp you just pause the video and then click "comment from timeline" and then type your comment.
Thanks a lot for the compliment!
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Loiner
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Thank you for an excellent video.
I really like your move and your reasoning here. On the other hand I don't think that we represent too much. Villain must think that you put him on a king at least after his call on flop and turn.
If thats true you are only value betting strong hands - hands that beats toppair. And those you will surely bet bigger. So maybe the river bet should be larger to consistent with your line throughout the hand.
Does that make any sense?
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Loiner
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chipchucker5
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Thank you for an excellent video.
I really like your move and your reasoning here. On the other hand I don't think that we represent too much. Villain must think that you put him on a king at least after his call on flop and turn.
If thats true you are only value betting strong hands - hands that beats toppair. And those you will surely bet bigger. So maybe the river bet should be larger to consistent with your line throughout the hand.
Does that make any sense?
Thanks Loiner, glad you enjoyed the vid.
Wrt the river betsizing. Like I said in the video, his range looks relatively weak/marginal, ie 87, A7, 88-JJ, 54s and some weak kings. So I think vbetting small here makes a lot of sense from his perspective. Also since the FD whiffed I think it's going to be nearly impossible to ever get him to fold Kx here even if we bet close to pot. So bluffing small is def the best vacuum play here imo.
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chipchucker5
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Here you talk about that theory-wise it's a good call since it's top of our range.
You also mentioned something like that in the first video. Is there a specific book or something that deals with this - where do you get the theory-wise thing from?
There aren't any books that im aware of on this subject.
The theory-wise thing comes from a concept of poker being a solved game (like chess). So try to imagine a super computer that was able to play unexploitable poker. Let's say for arguments sake that AQ is the absolute best hand I can possibly have here..so I'm officially at the "top of my range." The super computer would never fold to a shove here w/ AQ because that would mean that he's folding 100% of the time to a c/shove..which is pretty clearly exploitable. So when playing against a tough player, there are some situations where you think it's very close between call or fold because you're very unsure of his bluffing frequencies. You can revert to game theory and call when ur literally at the top of ur range.
Now I'd like to give a word of caution when trying to apply this concept in game. There are a lot of situations where you're going to be thinking "ok this guy just NEVER bluffs in this spot. OH WAIT! chipchucker told me that i shouldn't fold the top of my range against river bets against good players, so I CALL! god dammit agdlsj;lakjsdf that idiot!! what terrible advice he gave me!" There are plenty of situations where realistically people just really don't bluff and i will literally fold 100% of my range in those situations because we're not trying to play "unexploitable poker" we're trying to make the most money that we possibly can.
Not sure if that makes sense. Please let me know if you'd like me to clarify/reiterate anything.
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zachd2323
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What do you think of villain's line here w A9? Not so much OTR, but how would you typical play flop and turn from his perspective? I always find it difficult playing these kinds of spots vs. tough players. It just seems the villain IP will often float our cbet, but at the same time ch/c isn't really that attractive of an option either.
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