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He guys.

I decided to leave DC, because the content isn't really working for me anymore. It's not that I feel like I am this awesome player that can't use a training site anymore, but since Rob/entity asked me in my blog what I think should be changed, I am willing to make some suggestions despide the fact I made be berated (since that's the new thing at DC)

1.) There need to be forum moderators. A week ago some guy called me a poker genius (on a very sarcastic way) because it took me two years to beat small stakes. No matter if that is true or not, comments like that I never saw a year ago. I would hate to see DC turning in a twoplustwo kind of thing, where people feel uncomfortable posting so I think it would be nice to have some people that are willing to browse the forums to delete the trash (there goes some of the members post counts)

2.) I think the content is getting a bit too much of the same lately. The old skool coaches aren't really making any new stuff or they are repeating what already has been said a lot (i am thinking about coaching kristy), and the new coaches just don't bring that much new content. I think that making series of 8 was a great idea for some time, but now it's just feels like a "how the hell do we make 8 videos out of this". I rather see a 3 video series on 1 particulair subject (like c-betting, or leading flops, or check raising..etc, you get the idea) then another 8 video series where a sweat video is being recorded. The DC shorts was awesome, and I think DC could go way deeper with this.

I think DC has to much of sweat videos, and too little theory videos. I am just not going to look at another 60 minutes of somebody playing poker, while I could check out a 30 minutes theory video that I choose to watch because I know its about a subject I want to learn about.

It would already be a major difference if a coach recorded a sweat video and tell beforehand he is going to focus his sweat session on one particulair subject, altho this is prob. very hard to do.

I understand that making series is a big part of what DC seperates from the rest, but lately, it just hasn't been that impressive. A lot to look forward too, but in the end.. not much result.

3.) New members should have a really good guide where to start at DC. There is a video guide, but that one is a. hard to fine. and b. you need to know yourself well.

A lot of people start at DC no idea what to watch, and they end up making the wrong choices for their game. At the same time, i do think there is enough beginners stuff to check out, a lot of advanced stuff to check out, but a short of in between stuff to check out.

just my two cents.

Thanks for the comments, Snappie. We're constantly working on improving what we have to offer, and anytime the criticism is constructive, we're listening - even if we may get different opinions from different users, we still encourage the feedback.

As I said in the blogs, I hope you stick around the site and forums, regardless of whether you're a subscriber or not. That's what they're here for an hopefully it'll help you keep your eyes out for content you may be more interested in in the future.

Rob

He guys.

I decided to leave DC, because the content isn't really working for me anymore. It's not that I feel like I am this awesome player that can't use a training site anymore, but since Rob/entity asked me in my blog what I think should be changed, I am willing to make some suggestions despide the fact I made be berated (since that's the new thing at DC)

1.) There need to be forum moderators. A week ago some guy called me a poker genius (on a very sarcastic way) because it took me two years to beat small stakes. No matter if that is true or not, comments like that I never saw a year ago. I would hate to see DC turning in a twoplustwo kind of thing, where people feel uncomfortable posting so I think it would be nice to have some people that are willing to browse the forums to delete the trash (there goes some of the members post counts)

There are forum moderators, just PM one of us and we'll look into any post of question.

2.) I think the content is getting a bit too much of the same lately. The old skool coaches aren't really making any new stuff or they are repeating what already has been said a lot (i am thinking about coaching kristy), and the new coaches just don't bring that much new content.

Have you watched Blah234's series? Every video in that series has high marks and lots of discussion.

I think the "series" was a great idea for some time, but now it's just feels like a "how the hell do we make 8 videos out of this". I rather see a 3 video series on 1 particulair subject (like c-betting, or leading flops, or check raising) then another 8 video series where a sweat video is being recorded. The DC shorts was awesome, and I think DC could go way deeper with this.

Funny you say this as it's something we are looking into. We are looking at some metrics to the series length and video length.

I think DC has to much of sweat videos, and too little theory videos. I am just not going to look at another 60 minutes of somebody playing poker, while I could check out a 30 minutes theory video that I choose to watch because I know its about a subject I want to learn about.

There are three series of "theory" style videos this season. Blah's Apex Predator, Bellatrix Math Attacks and Saibots much talked about Mindsets and Strategies.

It would already be a major difference if a coach recorded a sweat video and is going to focus his sweat session on one particulair subject, altho this is prob. very hard to do.

I understand that series is a big part of what DC seperates from the rest, but lately, it just hasn't been that impressive. A lot to look forward too, but in the end.. not much result.

OK I follow.

3.) New members should have a really good guide where to start at DC. There is a video guide, but that one is a. hard to fine. and b. you need to know yourself well.

A lot of people start at DC no idea what to watch, and they end up making the wrong choices for their game. At the same time, i do think there is enough beginners stuff to check out, a lot of advanced stuff to check out, but a short of in between stuff to check out.

just my two cents.

FWIW, per about 2 months ago, we changed the welcome email and messages for new members to include the links to the DC Video Guide and Playlists.

Thanks for your feedback and good luck,
Joe

Joe I feel like you really glossed over one of the major points snappie made here. You say there are forum moderators but you don't actually mention who they are beyond you, and I think it would be helpful if you let people know who they are or at least provided some sort of "reporting" function whereby people could flag potentially malicious posts.

Joe I feel like you really glossed over one of the major points snappie made here. You say there are forum moderators but you don't actually mention who they are beyond you, and I think it would be helpful if you let people know who they are or at least provided some sort of "reporting" function whereby people could flag potentially malicious posts.

Sorry, I figured most were aware they could PM me or Rob fairly easily to voice concerns.

Sorry, I figured most were aware they could PM me or Rob fairly easily to voice concerns.

and why not take on some more people? Tbh, you are not doing a great job atm

I thought this was a good thread to give some feedback:
1. Let Grindcore make more videos. He took my game to the next level
2. Make more series like Apex Predator.
3. Make more videos using a replayer. E.g. Blah234 was talking about defending the blinds by calling. I would love to see a review of a certain number of hands where he defended by calling and makes some cool moves instead of a sweat video. Sweat videos kinda get boring with the time cause not too many interesting spots occur and they are also not thematically linked.

I thought this was a good thread to give some feedback:

3. Make more videos using a replayer. E.g. Blah234 was talking about defending the blinds by calling. I would love to see a review of a certain number of hands where he defended by calling and makes some cool moves instead of a sweat video. Sweat videos kinda get boring with the time cause not too many interesting spots occur and they are also not thematically linked.

very good idea to get away from sweat videos

and why not take on some more people? Tbh, you are not doing a great job atm

Not sure if I´m "allowed" to give my 2 cents on this topic, so mods please feel free to delete the following lines (no intention to derail this thread):

Snappie, I´m aware of the insulting thread you´re referring to and afaik the poster who made that statement apologized for it.

And though I fully understand that you were / are disappointed by getting adressed this way, I don´t think it helps a lot to get forum moderators in business that are constantly scanning the threads for possible malicious posts that have to be deleted. Censoring a public forum is a way wrong idea in my opinion - and it probably just leads to more and more poisoning the climate. What separates us from 2+2 then? Imho, it´s the people posting here, not the rules that make or make not DC a peaceful location to "waste" one´s time on.

I have been loving DC as the community where all treat each other with respect and honor. It´s sad that in the recent weeks this borderline has passed quite some time (and some may even remember that I mentioned that in a thread - but just got some more or less joking answers). Still I would heavily warn from installing some "delete post" mentality. But I might be totally wrong here.

Fwiw - I totally agree with most (if not all) of the other points Snappie was bringing up in his OP, especially the exaggerated video series. I admit I´m guilty of not even taking into account to start a series that already shows eight or more episodes because I know I rarely will get to the end anyway, so I don´t even start.

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Have you watched Blah234's series? Every video in that series has high marks and lots of discussion.

Ratings are going to give you a skewed perspective. An awful lot of videos have really close to 100% marks.

Blah's series has very few hands so far, so it's hard to implement. The fact that he's talking about strategies is good, but it's unusable: for example, he is addressing 3bet/4bet/5bet without changing range IP and OOP. He talks about adjusting 3bet range to exploit reads but not what to do in the absence of reads. Similarly, he's got 1/2 a vid on LAG play without any examples. Go watch episode 2, and try to figure out what changes you'd make to your ranges, or what plays you would add to become a LAG.

Worse than that, any series that tries to cover the same material adding in specific hand examples, or addressing IP/OOP factors is going to be "just like Apex Predator". I know I'm coming over as negative here, but that's mainly because the series seems to be the missing "Grindcore theory series" that I've been jonesing for since Thin Red Line episode 1.

His "reads" video is very good stuff.. I could handle the whole rest of the series being based on looking at hands like the two hands in the middle.

Snappie makes some very good points, and whether you agree or disagree, we can all learn and grow from constructive criticism, especially in regards to the general approach of the site.

Singling out a single video or series, however, suggests that you may not be taking a Haj School approach to watching videos. If you watch this series and really implement the strategies discussed it is really difficult to honestly say that you got nothing out of any video on this site.

I actually was lucky enough to talk to WoT about this series and he even admitted that it is hard to do this every time and he struggles with it, but he still takes this approach when studying. When you ACTIVELY use this great site, the learning experience will be nothing short of dynamic.

Sorry, I figured most were aware they could PM me or Rob fairly easily to voice concerns.

I've always assumed that it was any of the founders who were the moderators. Anytime I've had a problem, I just pm one of them.

Maybe I have mild ADD, but I find after about 40 or so minutes of watching a video, my attention starts to wander. This is why I enjoyed the DC shorts series; they seemed more "to the point".

Maybe I have mild ADD, but I find after about 40 or so minutes of watching a video, my attention starts to wander. This is why I enjoyed the DC shorts series; they seemed more "to the point".

Yeah I don't know if 60 minutes was chosen as the industry standard because it's the best length or because 60 minutes makes an hour! I think they can be good lengths for certain theory/HH videos but if I'm watching a video review/live play and taking everything I can out of it (including pauses) anything over 30-40 minutes is a struggle.

So, 40 minutes videos and 1.5x # of videos/week would be awesome.

Yeah I don't know if 60 minutes was chosen as the industry standard because it's the best length or (more likely) 60 minutes makes an hour! I think they can be good lengths for certain theory/HH videos but if I'm watching a video review/live play and ripping everything I can out of it (including pauses) anything over 30-40 minutes is a struggle.

So, 40 minutes videos and 1.5x # of videos/week would be awesome.

+1 tbh I am also a bit discouraged from watching long videos as it takes me 2-3hrs to watch the really good ones that have a lot of content as I like to think about stuff and ask a lot of questions (I think many coaches can confirm that, a lot of them even just respond selectively and just ignore questions, I am that annoying ), and I know it's going to be a bit taxing and am discouraged to watch the video as I know I can't finish it without being exhausted or to do it in 3 parts.

The strict 1 Hour 8 parts is an archaic format and I like that Math Attacks and Saibot's series are breaking that, although Saibot's series will only have 8 parts likely because of the contract with him and I'd like to see more parts for sure when each ep is just 40-45 min. He really isn't allowed to go in depth in a single episode when the time is so limited

Also agree with Grindcore being allowed to do more vids whenever he likes as he is the best 6max nlhe vid maker at DC right now as Blah is not quite there yet and needs a bit more experience. I say let him go berserk like Bluefire does with Giggy so that he can make what he likes when he likes even if it's just a sweat video of his game when he's bored, I think you should allow all 'heavy hitters' that are the best in each area at the site to do that, more is always better with them. I imagine it's really hard for people that are crushing the games and have massive hourly and who have no problem with putting in volume to spend hours preparing for a 8 parter 1 hour video series