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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Deepsquat (High Stakes)

Hey slide,

Thanks for watching.

Its getting pretty close to the threshold given he will have just over 3BB left once we hit the flop.

Villain is a reg ive played alot against so I dont expect him to be as likely to spazz out as a a rando fish who is shortstacking, but it certainly does diminish our FE alot as you pointed out.

Im not as disciplined as I should when observing stack sizes against regs, ive played alot of hands vs him and just saw he opened and insta 3b without noticing how short he was.

Thanks for pointing that out and its probably a fold pf. Id much rather do it with a hand like A5s for obvious reasons

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your princess has a nice lil tiara of chips!

Great series title!

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I've spent a lot of time working on software tools to help me with this problem. It just happens to be an especially difficult thing to solve as essentially the solution entails a solution of flop poker which is really tough. Conceptually I know how to solve this problem but the implementation is really tough. If you haven't already, look at episode 3 of running the streets, that way we can be on the same page with regards to the actual EV equation that underpins this and the EV equation which we wish to solve.

Essentially the problem is large in terms of computational complexity and as such will always be "hard" to solve. Hopefully sometime this year I can actually start getting some real results out of this work and be able to come back and say something useful in these type of threads. A big part of that will be getting some sort of quantitative analysis of the power of position. Essentially the main thing is that the player in position has more information and more options but it's hard to quantify exactly how much % edge this correlates to. It's obviously far easier to see an equity edge in a program like pokerstove or a next street playability approximation by taking the area under the curve from the next street equity distribution

fwiw i feel like having position is worth, in the long run in LHE (like combining all situations all hands all opponents whatever), maybe an extra 5% equity or so. maybe a very non-number-cruching way of getting a rough approximation of the value of postion would be to survey lots of folks and see what their feeling is (for what %), and then average those? i expect it'd be higher in big bet games and lower in limit games, and might vary based on skill level, but i bet it'd yield some useful info. i'd be interested to see the spectrum of estimates

your princess has a nice lil tiara of chips!

Lol nice pick up, if FT come back they should change the avatar to this imo

As for quantitative analysis on position, I read somewhere that in the year 2010 (or 09?) limit HUHU bot competition, the SB was expected to gain .08 big blind per hand. That seemed ridiculously low to me at first (as BB puts in .5 bb more in the blind AND is out of position) but after fooling around with pen and paper with a small minigame involving actual hands with equity (i.e. not a [0...1] game), that started to look more reasonable.

what's your personal feeling on it based on your lhe play?

No clue whatsoever. Even if there was a hard number for 6max (like the .08 above) it would be so tough to separate the effect of position and the ranges involved. I guess some simulations would be helpful... unfortunately it's quite long since I've done any real coding.

i'm just asking if you have a gut feeling based on having played lhe. no simulations or calcs allowed.

If I had a guess it would probably have been way off. I just checked the 2011 competition results, there's 18k logfiles, 3000 hands each so the sample size is pretty good. The bot in the small blind won .063 big blinds per hand. That seems very little to me.

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What's so "bad" about this turn card? We're still getting called by all broadway gutshots, heart draws, and worse Ace highs, so what's wrong with betting for value here? Were you expecting a fair number of xr on this board from this villain?

(Just looking for help...I probably barrel through too many turns with unimproved overcards)