Joe Tall
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1.) Ideally, we would only see your cards while you play the hand. I don't know how good your relationship to the bike is, but maybe they are able and willing to give you a version where just your hand and the board (plus maybe the names of the players in the hand) are shown. If not, maybe they can just give you a plain version without showing any cards; you can edit the video adding your hand and the board into the vid. => This would really feel like playing in a team with you/putting us in your shoes.
This would require some series post-production on DCs part. The series with the LATB footage is actually quite production intensive as live videos are a completely different format and size. We were happy to get out what we can so far as we nearly had to cancel the idea.
2.) Somewhen during your series it would be great if you do not choose some sample hands you want to talk about but show your session hand by hand. I think its a good discussion which hands to fold and when even to open with any two in early position 
When running dry, live poker is very slow. I'll let Bart handle this request but I'll have you know I have folded preflop for over two hours straight in live poker game, never seeing the flop. (it's live so 2hrs = ~60 hands in a limit game, less in a NL game!)
As said, please continue to do these real life videos. That's the reason why I signed up. For all that prefer the replayer videos, there are plenty of good ones out there...
Great feedback, we love to hear this. Thanks and please keep the feedback coming!
-Joe
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livebikebart
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This would require some series post-production on DCs part. The series with the LATB footage is actually quite production intensive as live videos are a completely different format and size. We were happy to get out what we can so far as we nearly had to cancel the idea.
When running dry, live poker is very slow. I'll let Bart handle this request but I'll have you know I have folded preflop for over two hours straight in live poker game, never seeing the flop. (it's live so 2hrs = ~60 hands in a limit game, less in a NL game!)
Great feedback, we love to hear this. Thanks and please keep the feedback coming!
-Joe
Joe's right, adding some post production graphics would be incredibly labor intensive. It actaully is quite the task to input hands into the live video replayer as well. I am doing the best that I can but each video is averaging between 3-5 hours of preparation before recording.
I do plan on doing one more live action video, however, and it is where I make a good amount of mistakes and I lose.
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MacTrust
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This would require some series post-production on DCs part. The series with the LATB footage is actually quite production intensive as live videos are a completely different format and size. We were happy to get out what we can so far as we nearly had to cancel the idea.
I see that. Well, let's go for a very simple aproach then. Let's assume you are able to get a clean version from LABT (which I don't know but if there is a good relationship to them this shouldn't be too complex). I still would love the very simple option that Bart is just saying what he has (as he does anyway). And he has to announce what is on the board (what he is doing anyway as well). When I play live, I do not look at the flop all the time as well; and when the flop/turn/river comes the camera is usually showing the board anyway. I understand that not showing hole cards and the board all the time, reduces the "high stakes poker feeling" - however, my view is, that it is about trainig. If I want to see good TV, I can go to YouTube. Maybe its worth just to try one time.
When running dry, live poker is very slow. I'll let Bart handle this request but I'll have you know I have folded preflop for over two hours straight in live poker game, never seeing the flop. (it's live so 2hrs = ~60 hands in a limit game, less in a NL game!)
Oh, I completely agree. I wouldn't show all hands Bart/we are not involved in entirely. Just go on a kind of fast forward or shift to the next hand, after Bart has folded. Again, if this is about training, we will need to fold quite a lot of hands - even if we are aggressive players.
Great feedback, we love to hear this. Thanks and please keep the feedback coming!
-Joe
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MacTrust
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Joe's right, adding some post production graphics would be incredibly labor intensive. It actaully is quite the task to input hands into the live video replayer as well. I am doing the best that I can but each video is averaging between 3-5 hours of preparation before recording.
I do plan on doing one more live action video, however, and it is where I make a good amount of mistakes and I lose.
I know. I read that in your post before. I tried to encourage you to do more. My feeling is, this type of video could be a real competitive advantage...
Btw: I assume you are still @WSOP. I wish you good luck and your A-Game all the time 
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Joe Tall
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I see that. Well, let's go for a very simple aproach then. Let's assume you are able to get a clean version from LABT (which I don't know but if there is a good relationship to them this shouldn't be too complex). I still would love the very simple option that Bart is just saying what he has (as he does anyway). And he has to announce what is on the board (what he is doing anyway as well). When I play live, I do not look at the flop all the time as well; and when the flop/turn/river comes the camera is usually showing the board anyway. I understand that not showing hole cards and the board all the time, reduces the "high stakes poker feeling" - however, my view is, that it is about trainig. If I want to see good TV, I can go to YouTube. Maybe its worth just to try one time.
We have the full production footage of the LATB episodes actually. The footage already includes the hole cards. We are not putting them in, the are in the original video that Bart has to produce his video over. There would be no good way to call out the opponents hole cards in DC production of the LATB video without ruining the quality of the overall video.
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livebikebart
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Great Vid, if you can would you comment on how many buy ins do you take to a live game. Also what considerations do you consider to rebuy . Last do you set a profit target for the day ?
Since I keep a box and players bank at the casino I don't really concern myself with how many buy ins I bring to the table. I usually set a 3k stop loss at 5-10 and 5k at 10-20. Sometimes I have broken that rule if the game is really good.
In 5-10 I always top off to the maximum which is $1500. In 10-20 it really depends on how deep the bad players are with consideration to my rebuys.
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livebikebart
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I think what happened in this hand is something that i find happens with a lot of players with decent poker skills. This player knows who you are and that you are very good. I think he simply decided to take this line to outplay you. It seems to be a pattern I've noticed it my live experience is that players will try to bluff too much vs better players. Its almost like a mental thing where its like "I must prove that I can beat this guy". Considering how fast he was betting also tends to prove this concept.
On a side note about the hand. Would you tend to play KcKd the same way in this spot? What about AQ without a diamond? I think with AQo here I am confused on what would be the best turn play (assuming the flop c/c). Betting makes sense to protect vs the draws, however if our read is that he is bluffing or even value betting Ax, can we C/C both turn and river? even on Diamond rivers?
I think that I would play KxKd the same way. Ax without a diamond is a very close decision on a fourth flush river. Live players have a super polarized river betting range so most won't bet less than the Qd or Kd. I lean towards a call if I'm bluff catching.
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livebikebart
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If the river is a nonclub jack and he checks to you, are you value betting that (I feel like I definitely would)? What about the jack of clubs, if he checks to you (I think I would, but that's a lot closer)? The series is great, thanks a lot.
I would probably bet a non club jack on the river and check back a club jack. It's not that I feel like I would be behind his range if a club jack came but I just don't think i'm going to get called my worse more than 50% of the time.
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livebikebart
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Hi
Great series, huge plus for DC against other Online Poker Schools.
You seemed very surprised with James play, but I believe most people never hear about the concept of folding the turn with the nuts (me included).
You learned this concept some place else or just reasoning it yourself?
This format of live play is much superior to the one of the first 3 episodes in my opinion.
Many thanks
See Cash Plays Samoleous episode.
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livebikebart
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Bart-
First, I want to say thank you for the great series. This is some of the best material i've seen anywhere for live play in my opinion. I actually renewed my premium subscription just so I could continue watching this series.
I'm currently playing $1/2 live. Unfortunately, I'm not having much success and am down quite a bit over the last few months. Any suggestions on how to approach the lower limits when playing live? One of my key problems seems to be isolating the bad players at the table. The whole table will limp around to me in the CO, I make it $15-20 and 7 players call. Should you make your isolating range much tighter live as opposed to online play?
I know these are some pretty basic questions. Just wanted to hear your thoughts. Thanks in advance.
I think in games like this with shallower stacks you should really tone down the iso raising and concentrating on bloating the pot up preflop for value.
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