Poker Video: Misc/Other by Joe Tall (High Stakes)

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Excellent vids.

My only comment for part 2 is your 4 flush Stud Hi hand 3way vs Dagostino and humpybfly

I think your reasons for not raising on 4th are valid and completely correct, but I also think this reasoning lowers the implied odds of your hand. I'm sure Dags, and possibly even humpybfly are decent enough hand readers to have you playing your cards face-up regardless of the action you take really. Like you said when you hit on 6th, you are hoping he has 2 pair and thinks you have 2 pair or better when you bet out, but your image throughout the vid pretty much makes Q's up very unlikely. I think with the size of the pot you played well, but I think it needs to be noted that with a smaller pot different actions might need to be taken. This hand is actually a whole lot closer than it looks. Because of the board textures you will never be getting a free card and I honestly don't think Dagostino will continue after you make your hand without Trip 9's or K's.

I would be interested to know 2 things.

1) What were your plans for the hand if you had bricked HU on 6th? Given the way this hand played out do you see any merit in
some sort of river bluff?

2) What were your plans for the river had Dagostino called your bet on 6th?

Is calling out of the sb facing a single raiser (even from late position) with KQQJ 1 suit a standard play or were their table dynamics that made you call. This is a hand I usually fold in that situation, so I'm looking for some insight. Really liked the video though, and would enjoy more mixed game videos.

Excellent, nice to see a very interesting high stakes mixed game. Did you keep much of your own action?

Greeeeeeeeeat! i hope for more of this. I have some questions...

-About bringin+reraising when you are the bring in in stud. I think this play narrows your range too much and it becomes easier to play against you on later streets, no?. You make that play too with crappier hands sometimes, for balancing that play? (especially against steal raises)

-28:45 you say that you rarely fold your big blind in omaha8, especially against steals. What values do you usually need against a early position? Do you think nearly any hand is worth calling against a steal raise from the BU or CO?

-48:00: the stud hi hand between chufty and mike matusow, (in 4th chufty has a AA board) matusow raises 4th street, and bet+3bet 5th street, bet 6th, and checks behind 7th, and ends up winning with a single pair of aces! Expert hand reading or poor playing by mike, what do you think?

Thank you very much

I think your reasons for not raising on 4th are valid and completely correct, but I also think this reasoning lowers the implied odds of your hand.

First, leave the time stamp for a hand question, much easier for me to go through and find it quick. One of the reasons I called was to reserve implied odds and lower reverse implied odds. Such that there are times that Dags 3-bets my raise and drives humpybfly out of this pot and if Dags has any decent hand, this happens often.

I'm sure Dags, and possibly even humpybfly are decent enough hand readers to have you playing your cards face-up regardless of the action you take really. Like you said when you hit on 6th, you are hoping he has 2 pair and thinks you have 2 pair or better when you bet out, but your image throughout the vid pretty much makes Q's up very unlikely. I think with the size of the pot you played well, but I think it needs to be noted that with a smaller pot different actions might need to be taken. This hand is actually a whole lot closer than it looks. Because of the board textures you will never be getting a free card and I honestly don't think Dagostino will continue after you make your hand without Trip 9's or K's.

I would be interested to know 2 things.

1) What were your plans for the hand if you had bricked HU on 6th? Given the way this hand played out do you see any merit in
some sort of river bluff?

2) What were your plans for the river had Dagostino called your bet on 6th?

Dang I wish you left the time stamp, I'm slammed today and cant go looking for trhe hand right now but will try later at some point. So generally, I think I check-call 6th if I brick, river bluffing here has slim chance as I an an unknown and in stud this = call to Dags. I think I can check-raise the river but I cant remember the boards right now, so not sure.

Is calling out of the sb facing a single raiser (even from late position) with KQQJ 1 suit a standard play or were their table dynamics that made you call. This is a hand I usually fold in that situation, so I'm looking for some insight. Really liked the video though, and would enjoy more mixed game videos.

Glad you enjoyed the video. KQQJss has about 33% equity vs two hands that are in the top ~40%+ of O8 ranges and fairs about 45%+ HU. The key to such a hand, is that it has scoop potential, is easy to flop/fit/fold since it only plays in one direction. I dont always, call with such a hand and some experts recommend folding it but the dynamic at the time was to slow down the LP raisers a bit, so this is a spot where I like to get involved.

Greeeeeeeeeat! i hope for more of this. I have some questions...

-About bringin+reraising when you are the bring in in stud. I think this play narrows your range too much and it becomes easier to play against you on later streets, no?. You make that play too with crappier hands sometimes, for balancing that play? (especially against steal raises)

I assume you are talking Stud hi? So, yes, I definitely mix this up vs steal completes.

-28:45 you say that you rarely fold your big blind in omaha8, especially against steals. What values do you usually need against a early position? Do you think nearly any hand is worth calling against a steal raise from the BU or CO?

Vs EP raises I'm going to have to have strong hi/low hands. Any hand vs steals, well no. But in an aggro game where ranges are wide, simply avoiding 2 part-T9876-hands, may be enough to get involved without getting very deep into specifics.

-48:00: the stud hi hand between chufty and mike matusow, (in 4th chufty has a AA board) matusow raises 4th street, and bet+3bet 5th street, bet 6th, and checks behind 7th, and ends up winning with a single pair of aces! Expert hand reading or poor playing by mike, what do you think?

He does have open-AA so I would think he'd call with 2-pair or better only the way the hand was played.

Thanks for the reply! But hmmm in the matusow vs. chufty hand im talking more about the bet+3bet in 5th street.

Thanks for the reply! But hmmm in the matusow vs. chufty hand im talking more about the bet+3bet in 5th street.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the river they way you wrote it. Expert (standard, imo) play by Mike vs Chufty, Mike has the bigger Ace/can outdraw if he has 2-pair.

Really interesting vid just to see how these games play for someone who has only really played NLHE before.

Great vid. The amount of owning Joe Tall's brain does in Stud makes mine hurt. I think I'll stick to my limidonking.

Really interesting vid just to see how these games play for someone who has only really played NLHE before.

You should check out my Donk To Stud series from Season One, they were made for HE-only players who are interested in other games.

Enjoying all the stud videos, looking forward to more.