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In this hand both villians have very high WTSDs, VPIP. This is a spot that gets me in trouble. I can handle 1 fish in a hand, but it gets complicated when there are 2 b/c fish or not, they still can catch things if there are 2 of them.

I will post turn and river after a few suggestions on what i should do.


Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

GayGambla (BB): $195.00
joethepro (UTG): $155.00
sxto (MP): $198.75
Bunzy1 (CO): $325.85
Francix (BTN): $278.60
clayton2424 (SB): $184.90

Pre Flop: joethepro is UTG with K A
joethepro raises to $7, 1 fold, Bunzy1 calls $7, 1 fold, clayton2424 calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($23.00) 5 A 4 (3 players)
clayton2424 checks, joethepro bets $14, Bunzy1 calls $14, clayton2424 calls $14

Turn: ($65.00) 7 (3 players)
clayton2424 checks, joethepro ???

I'd bet again, they can easily have weaker 1pr hands here, the 7 isn't that scary

probably somewhat small like 40 since you are shortish

Definitely bet again (worse Ax, 67, other one pair hands call) - making it 40 sets you up for a less-than psb on the river to get all in assuming one caller.

Am I the only one betting more on the flop???

Am I the only one betting more on the flop???

xerxes, to me, the flop is either i'm way ahead or way behind. doesn't look like many drawing hands are out there and their range is either high cards or pairs since they called an UTG so i put them either on a set, a middle pair, or ace lower kicker.

if i bet the size i do, i can maybe keep these fish in with a mid pair, betting close to pot could make them fold it, which i am way ahead of (also way ahead of ace lower kicker). i'm not that afraid of getting outdrawn.

thanks for the advice guys. i did bet out again and i eventually lost the pot and i thought to myself i didn't bet large enough. I have two fishes who are drawing, so i should give them REALLY bad odds to call, but from the advice that's being said, it seems like my turn bet size was good.

here is the result:

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

GayGambla (BB): $195.00
joethepro (UTG): $155.00
sxto (MP): $198.75
Bunzy1 (CO): $325.85
Francix (BTN): $278.60
clayton2424 (SB): $184.90

Pre Flop: joethepro is UTG with K A
joethepro raises to $7, 1 fold, Bunzy1 calls $7, 1 fold, clayton2424 calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($23.00) 5 A 4 (3 players)
clayton2424 checks, joethepro bets $14, Bunzy1 calls $14, clayton2424 calls $14

Turn: ($65.00) 7 (3 players)
clayton2424 checks, joethepro bets $49, Bunzy1 calls $49, clayton2424 folds

River: ($163.00) Q (2 players)
joethepro bets $85 all in, Bunzy1 calls $85

Final Pot: $333.00
joethepro shows Kd Ah (a pair of Aces)
Bunzy1 shows Ac 9c (a flush, Ace high)
Bunzy1 wins $330.00
(Rake: $3.00)

I understand that this is a WA/WB situation but I think that if a guy calls your down with A,X for 2/3 of the pot he calls you for 3/4 too.

I understand that this is a WA/WB situation but I think that if a guy calls your down with A,X for 2/3 of the pot he calls you for 3/4 too.

i agree with what you said only if it were heads up. multiway i think a lot less people call you 3/4ths compared to 2/3. the pot gets inflated pretty large, plus they feel like they should have a stronger hand to be able to call you. same thing goes for 3bet pots, imo.