Archytas
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Joined 10/2009
Aaron--
Thanks very much for the response.
I agree that 50% is something like a magic number--I've played a lot of HU and worked with my stats a lot.
Also I think I agree with almost everything else you said. I guess it sounds like you agree with what I said? As long as I'm not grossly mistaken when I say that there's no _a priori_ or game-theoretic reason to think you should be able to keep the button from autoprofiting preflo, then I'm OK. I was just concerned because in the video the latter thing was what it sounded like you two were claiming. I definitely think there are good _empirical_ reasons to shoot for around 50% (e.g., it works, and the 50%ish hands feel breakevenish to good players).
Thanks again. I'm currently loading a bunch of your videos onto my iPad for the flight to Vegas.
Posted almost 2 years ago
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ghetifal
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Joined 10/2011
I wish pokermoney made some comments about what he thinks about the analysis of his c-betting strategy. Then again, its probably plus EV to remain silent on this issue for him. Assuming he is a strong player, I think too many assumptions are being made about how weak his check back range is and how strong his flop betting range is. It is very possible and actually likely that he has worked out a decently balanced c-bet strategy where he is checking back big hands, big draws, and his air some amount, while also still c-betting hands from each of those categories some.
In one of the Ansky vs. Durrrr videos, Dani points out that just because Dwan had a 4-bet percentage of something like 1 or 2 percent, that doesn't mean he has a ridiculously strong range. He is still going to have air in that range, and maintain balance he is also going to be flat calling QQ+ some amount. This supports your video's assertion that stats are a starting point. We can come up with ideas for how to play against someone who c-bets a low amount, but makes sure not to cling to preconceptions about how such a range would be constructed.
Also, while it is clear the vacuum play with 94o discussed at length around the 40 minute mark is to c-bet against pr1nnyraids weak defending range and high Fold to CBet, pokermoney has to be more concerned about balance against a player of KRANTZ caliber and not just looking for all the juicy vacuum plays because that would be too transparent. Sometimes he just has to give up with this hand or else his betting range is crazy weak, especially making the reasonable assumption that he checks back some strong hands given his lower c-betting percent.
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KRANTZ
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Why would the fact that he raised allow you to remove top pair from his range? Because he flatted top pair medium kicker in this instance? I would think he is defiantly capable of raising KQ AQ even QT here and possibly even worse.
it's because we see he's flatting top pair medium kicker here AND he's also raising so many flops in general. it doesn't allow me to remove every single combination of top pair, just the weaker ones and some combos of the strongest ones.
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