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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by sthief09 (Micro/Small Stakes)

I have WtSD of 28.3% which is on the high side. I have W$SD of 51.4% which is on the low side. But I seem to have decent stats in all the areas that you suggest might cause this:

River call efficiency = 2.3%
River Agg Freq = 22.1%
Fold to FCB + Raise FCB = 49.5+8.8= 58.3
FCB/TCB= 68.6/49.7= 1.4

Any suggestions on which of those areas I should be working on to bring my WtSD down a bit?



Also, are you using current students' stats in future videos or are you soliciting stats from people?

NL25 FR PLEASE

How can I apply your video to my NL25 FULL RING stats?

How can I apply your video to my NL25 FULL RING stats?

I tried to get a group of people together to help answer questions such as those (scroll up for my post to see it), but no one has spoken up as interested.

I tried to get a group of people together to help answer questions such as those (scroll up for my post to see it), but no one has spoken up as interested.

It's b/c those questions are way too broad. If you can figure out the reasoning behind the situations described you can then apply it to yourself even if the game/stakes are a little different.

It's b/c those questions are way too broad. If you can figure out the reasoning behind the situations described you can then apply it to yourself even if the game/stakes are a little different.

I'm not sure what you mean. Which questions, situations, and reasoning are you referring to? This series is targeted towards 6max and there are specific stats and hand histories that can be analyzed for that game. Similar, but different stats, would exist for full ring and corresponding hand histories could also be analyzed to help plug leaks. I simply want to get a group together to bridge the gap in this series between 6max and full ring.

Excellent video , so many leaks to be fixed its great ! really look forward to the series
On your slide when you have 4bet >14%
Are you saying your 4bet should not be greater than 14% ? what would you consider a good 4bet stat at 100/200nl games

I also notice you selected the small PP to call/playback vs 3bet , how do you play these ? both calling or 4betting dont seem like great options so i almost always muck them

Hi!^^

Do you maybe also have some suspicions regards to potential leaks/problems regards to following stats:

WWSF = 46,8
WTSD = 24,2
Won$atSD = 52,2

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Those look pretty strong to me, assuming you play with a 22+ VP$IP. I'd have to look at all your peripheral stats to see if anything looked out of whack. Hopefully I'll cover about all those through these 8 eps.

Great video, this series is going to be "must see" if this is representative.

fwiw, I have Leakbuster and have liked it, but haven't known exactly what to do with the knowledge that stat X is a leak for me. Screwing around with some of these filters for an hour after watching the vid has already told me more about things I need to work on than I've been able to discover through LB in quite some time, thank you.

Yeah, that is an issue I've had with LB. I used it a lot around the time I was making App Attack and I sort of felt like they hit you with quantity, some of it being extremely useful and some of it being a waste of time.

At what sample size do things like WWSF, WtSD. and W$SD start to become meaningful?

Thinking of it mathematically, the most frequent event is you see a flop, so WWSF (saw flop--won or lost) and WtSD (saw flop--went to showdown or didn't) should converge most quickly. It's a binomial and binomials closest to 50% have the most variance. So WtSD should converge the quickest (20k hands?). WWSF would converge a little slower (25-30k?).

W$@SD only kicks in when you go to showdown. It's also close to 50% so it'll have higher variance. Figure it needs about 50k for you to be confident in it.

This all actually does fit in with my experience.

at 00:38:46 you mention
if turn c-bet > 55% or turn c-bet success is less than 42%

my flop c-bet is 67%, success 44% vs 1 opponent
my turn c-bet is 47,6%, and success vs 1 opponent only 37%
is that a leak and something i should look more into depth?
(otherwise I did not find any major problems with WWSF, WTSD or W@SD at least with stats)

Well, I would filter for it but I wouldn't assume it's a problem. It's very unlikely that you're looking at a large enough sample to panic about that success rate, but it's enough that I'd highly recommend reviewing hands. That's the whole goal of this. Just find stuff to filter for, and that's a good place to start.

If you're interested in the filters for river bluffs, you may also want to see the custom stats for HEM from this thread:

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/custom-reports/8183-about-bluffing.html

Note that these custom stats use different hand values filters than the filter for river bluff in this video, but if you want to get some kind of idea on the efficiency or net$ won of your river bluffs the stat is more useful then the filter by itself because it works like the river call net $ and river call eff. -- that is, it takes into account that the money in the pot prior to the river doesn't belong to you anymore.

I think it may be possible to modify those stats to use the same definition for a river bluff as Josh's filter if PH.HoleCardValue_ID (used in the filter) has the same value definitions as river.madehandvalue does in the stat definition, but I'm not sure and I haven't tried to figure it out yet.

I love stuff like this. Thanks!

I have WtSD of 28.3% which is on the high side. I have W$SD of 51.4% which is on the low side. But I seem to have decent stats in all the areas that you suggest might cause this:

River call efficiency = 2.3%
River Agg Freq = 22.1%
Fold to FCB + Raise FCB = 49.5+8.8= 58.3
FCB/TCB= 68.6/49.7= 1.4

Any suggestions on which of those areas I should be working on to bring my WtSD down a bit?



Also, are you using current students' stats in future videos or are you soliciting stats from people?

I've gotten DC member volunteers for the videos. PM me if you're interested but I'm about at capacity. I can double check though. I put up a post on the DC forums and got responses that way, if you're just curious.

Everything looks pretty solid there. A high WtSD makes a lower W$@SD more workable. Think of it this way.
When you see a flop, you go to SD 28.3% and win 51.4%. .283*.514 = 14.5%, which is the % of the time you win at showdown when you see a flop.

If someone goes to SD 27% and wins 54%, that yields the same 14.5%.

My #1 thought would be it's the river play, but a 2.3 river call efficiency, if over a large sample, is great. Maybe you're bluffing the river more than most people, and that's fine too as long as you're not spewing. Other than that I have no real guesses. Seems fine.

Excellent video , so many leaks to be fixed its great ! really look forward to the series
On your slide when you have 4bet >14%
Are you saying your 4bet should not be greater than 14% ? what would you consider a good 4bet stat at 100/200nl games

I also notice you selected the small PP to call/playback vs 3bet , how do you play these ? both calling or 4betting dont seem like great options so i almost always muck them

There's no right or wrong 4-bet%, but the higher it is, the more likely you're doing it recklessly in which case checking out that 4-bet success profit is important.

If I 4-bet a small pair I usually just push. The numbers support it against aggro 3-bettors. In position I will call a 3-bet with mid-small pairs like 44-77 sometimes. Reasons may be (1) he only potted it and I'm getting 2-1, (2) he's a nit and I have both implied odds and a chance of checking it down on all 3 streets vs. AK/AQ, or (3) I have an idea of how he plays and can float some flops.

This is a terriffic series, thanks!

I think the video series tag should be "Search and Destroy", shouldn't it?