zed
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cool vid, props to carter for some good calls/solid play.
my thoughts were that the initial strategy of minraising any two and cbetting indiscriminantly was too vague against a competent opponent and the aggro three betting strategy was premature since it was never really clear what his opening range looked like.
the strategy in the second part seemed mostly geared towards the aggro image developed in the first, but that led to some spots where carter adjusted well and made some good calls in spots otherwise appropriate for barreling.
Jk3a made some good reads calling his hand exactly a few times--one was the QJ where he c/r the flop and binked the turn. I almost wanna fold the turn there w/ Ax because the turn K should look at least equally scary in terms of your range as well, yet he barrels.
funass video to watch with the hole cards exposed. Bravo
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jk3a
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cool vid, props to carter for some good calls/solid play.
my thoughts were that the initial strategy of minraising any two and cbetting indiscriminantly was too vague against a competent opponent and the aggro three betting strategy was premature since it was never really clear what his opening range looked like.
the strategy in the second part seemed mostly geared towards the aggro image developed in the first, but that led to some spots where carter adjusted well and made some good calls in spots otherwise appropriate for barreling.
Jk3a made some good reads calling his hand exactly a few times--one was the QJ where he c/r the flop and binked the turn. I almost wanna fold the turn there w/ Ax because the turn K should look at least equally scary in terms of your range as well, yet he barrels.
funass video to watch with the hole cards exposed. Bravo
for all that watch: my apologies for overusing the words reasonable and obviously.
zed: def don't think i cbet indiscriminately and my default 3betting strategy against regs is to get in the 15-25% range early and adjust accordingly. thanks for watching and the other nice comments.
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zed
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jk3a
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chinz
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Yeah but so far in the match you had been folding a lot to his raises but pretty much spewing a stack any time he took a more passive line...
Of course leveling could still go both ways, but I still think more passive line would be better and also help balance his range, so his b/calling range isn't so obviously weak. (obv there's nothing wrong with having face up weak range, if he feels comfortable playing it against you)
Definitely liked the video, seeing his holecards after the match must've been nice for you, that has to be frustrating when nothing you do seems to work. Also a good reminded that sometimes when a reg seems to be getting constantly out of line with aggression over small (like 10-20mins to the match) he could just be running like god and not soulreading you every hand.
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alexhandros
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Definitely don't like 3bet/5betting 83s in hand 1. Sure he can be 4bet bluffing early on but you just have such a terrible hand equity wise when called (same can be said for the 54s later though that one is closer with game flow).
Don't see much of a need to 3bet 83s basically ever, we can pick plenty of better hands to put in our 3bet bluffing range (even trashy stuff like Q5s, 85o, etc)
Edit: You coach him so you obviously know his game well. If you have a really strong reason to believe that with your dynamic with him, he's extremely likely to 4bet light the first time, then 3bet/5betting could be correct. Would have to be a super strong read with that particular hand though.
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jk3a
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Definitely don't like 3bet/5betting 83s in hand 1. Sure he can be 4bet bluffing early on but you just have such a terrible hand equity wise when called (same can be said for the 54s later though that one is closer with game flow).
Don't see much of a need to 3bet 83s basically ever, we can pick plenty of better hands to put in our 3bet bluffing range (even trashy stuff like Q5s, 85o, etc)
Edit: You coach him so you obviously know his game well. If you have a really strong reason to believe that with your dynamic with him, he's extremely likely to 4bet light the first time, then 3bet/5betting could be correct. Would have to be a super strong read with that particular hand though.
but i won 1/2 the pot 
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Thorrrr
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Its almost tilting to watch you run so bad. Everytime you try to pull off a (semi)bluff, he has it. I find it really difficult in such times and think he must be full of it and start doing things like you did - barelling the hell out of him, just to find out he is one step infront and is not intending to fold his marginal hands, yet I fail to make anything decent, lol.
Nice video, thanks!
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Gamblegrill
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totaly agree to alexhandros.
Why dont you take Hands like Ax, Kx to 5 bet jam? You have some blockers and i think your doing a litle bit better against his 4bet calling range.
Those two spots i really dont like.
But overall a verry good Vid
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jk3a
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totaly agree to alexhandros.
Why dont you take Hands like Ax, Kx to 5 bet jam? You have some blockers and i think your doing a litle bit better against his 4bet calling range.
Those two spots i really dont like.
But overall a verry good Vid
for those of you who "don't like" my 5bet bluffs, please watch my short where i detail some of the math. I bet you guys would have liked them alot more if he folded.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.632% 28.35% 00.28% 143691512 1426164.00 { 53s }
Hand 1: 71.368% 71.09% 00.28% 360298144 1426164.00 { 88+, AQs+, AQo+ }
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1,294,501,824 games 0.884 secs 1,464,368,579 games/sec
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.749% 25.54% 01.21% 330620268 15646692.00 { A2o }
Hand 1: 73.251% 72.04% 01.21% 932588172 15646692.00 { 88+, AQs+, AQo+ }
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486,294,336 games 0.443 secs 1,097,729,878 games/sec
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.886% 24.57% 00.31% 119492260 1529292.00 { 83s }
Hand 1: 75.114% 74.80% 00.31% 363743492 1529292.00 { 88+, AQs+, AQo+ }
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alexhandros
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Don't mean to continue this point and it was another wise good video, but I definitely would not have liked it any more if he folded because I think it's a pretty awful 3bet to begin with. Good vid overall, and way to not tilt after the rough bumps early on
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