stonehoof
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Top right with AQo - what's your plan when he calls, you miss the flop, and he checks? Do you check it back because you likely have the best hand or bet to prevent him bluffing his air on future streets?
Since his flop donks meant he had a hand, if he donked out on a low flop are you folding AQ even though when you're behind you still have 6 clean outs?
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Grindcore
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Bottom right with T7s - on the river what's the worst hand you'll be calling with?
And what bet size would you have folded to? Say if he had made it ~20 into the pot of 40 to make it look like he was value betting, do you still call anyway because of pot odds since you only have to be good 1/3 of the time?
I think I pretty much call any river bet here except like $35 or so as the close to pot bets tend to be value in general. The worst hand I call with is probably 7x as I'd checkraise or check fold worse on the flop.
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Grindcore
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Top right with AQo - what's your plan when he calls, you miss the flop, and he checks? Do you check it back because you likely have the best hand or bet to prevent him bluffing his air on future streets?
Since his flop donks meant he had a hand, if he donked out on a low flop are you folding AQ even though when you're behind you still have 6 clean outs?
When he checks, AQ is likely the best hand. Having a pair or not doesn't really change much, aside from the equity his air has. If I check it's to let him bluff. If I'm folding later streets it's better to cbet for protection. I think betting like 15% pot on both flop and turn to induce a bluff checkraise on the turn and getting protection on both streets is probably the best line unimproved. Being almost invulnerable with a pair checking becomes better.
When he donks a low board it'd depend on his betsizing and the board. Probably lean towards folding. Something like JTs is probably better to call there than AQ since he could have Ax with a pair more often than J/Tx with a pair + the ace is more of a scarecard when I hit it on the turn.
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stonehoof
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nemmad
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AhK table 4: would you bet if the turn was a heart instead of a J? When he checks behind he has most of time some weak showdown hand that he didnt want to bet I think. But its questionable if he will fold that now if you bet turn + river because you look not strong with checken this flop. + maybe he checks JJ or TT behind and is only gonna fold on a 4rd heart except for the combo's with a heart.
So check turn on a heart and hoping for a river is best here vs an unknown I think, you still have some showdown value obv, not a lot though.
Are my thoughts good here?
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nemmad
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table 2: 89o: you say you cant flat, but you want to play with him essentially. But if you want to play with him flatting is better I think, because there is not a huge 3better behind you + you will have more implied odds when you call him + there is more postflop ability.
So I think your thoughts were that you want to 3bet him as bluf here. But I have been making some charts with 3betting hands, with most equity/blockers. 89o seems to me as a horrible hand, there are a lot of better hands to 3bet him with blockers here or suited connectors. So I always want to pick the better 3bet hands to 3bet and not the weakest ones. Offcourse when I know somebody folds a lot on 3bets I start just 3betting really much and hands doesnt matter that much. But till that moment 3betting with better hands is better? But on the other side is what you always tell in your vids: just take the line that gives you the most information if both lines are good. If you faster know that he folds or calls to much on 3bets you can start faster with making money from him.
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MicroDonk
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Grindcore
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is it ok to pound on the fish this much?
Is that an ethical or a poker question? All I try to do is maximize my own EV. And poker is a game. In a game players try to win. That should answer the question either way 
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