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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Grindcore (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:13:20

Hi again hopefuly I am not getting annoying yet still 6.5 vids to go ;o

Here you open from MP with K9o
You 2 barrel on QJXXQ double suited against an unknown midstack.
1) Am I right that your plan was to 3 barrel a ton of rivers since there are so many draws on turn that will call here but should fold to a river bet (is a plan to either check turn or 3barrel a lot a correct one)?
2) Which river cards would you barrel
-paired (Q is the worst one, what about J pairing or one of the low X pairing?)
-total rags
-Ax
-Heart hitting
-Spade hitting

3) How much would you make it, would it vary on the different cards?
4) Is hitting a K a value bet on the river even when its a spade or heart and how much would you bet ?

Hi again hopefuly I am not getting annoying yet still 6.5 vids to go ;o

Here you open from MP with K9o
You 2 barrel on QJXXQ double suited against an unknown midstack.
1) Am I right that your plan was to 3 barrel a ton of rivers since there are so many draws on turn that will call here but should fold to a river bet (is a plan to either check turn or 3barrel a lot a correct one)?
2) Which river cards would you barrel
-paired (Q is the worst one, what about J pairing or one of the low X pairing?)
-total rags
-Ax
-Heart hitting
-Spade hitting

3) How much would you make it, would it vary on the different cards?
4) Is hitting a K a value bet on the river even when its a spade or heart and how much would you bet ?

Maybe I knew more at the time. Can't remember anything anymore. But just looking at the hand, the 2nd barrel seems terrible. I often have to 3barrel to win and he's rarely gonna fold a queen, and might even herocall a jack when draws miss. I mostly get him off busted draws by 3barreling so I should just check back on the turn. I'd like a 2barrel better with AK or 77 as you can check back the river and win more often. If I barrel the river I'd bet like 40% pot just to make him fold missed draws on bricks, and I'd probably bet big on an ace and give up on a heart.

Time Link to 00:26:53

here you c/r as PFR with a straight draw on KXXs.

Do you focus on the topic of c/raising as PFR in detail somewhere or are you aware of somebody else focusing on it?
It's like literally 2 days I since I raised the question elsewhere when a nit check raised me
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/904401

I don't even know where to start as I never do it and I hardly know what it means from other people, should I be balanced? What do I rep? Doesn't it screw my betting range?
You don't see that in many vids and regs do it very very rarely

Time Link to 00:42:31

I dislike your bluff here, your stats + the fact that you beat him out of two pots recently one with c/r is very likely to make him pissed and not fold anything would you agree? I love it with clean image though
Or is it one of the spots that you bluff at anyway, if he folds you got a weak spot if he calls your image is even worse and you can value town him hardcore next time?

It reminded me of Syous and Chipchucker in a video where they made a huge bluff andwere tanging with a villain a ton and then made another huge bluff 250bb deep, got called with A high and went on berating the guy for calling them so light, that their range crushes him etc etc. where he was clearly emotionally attached and had his intuitive defence mechanisms
afecting his decisions (you don't need to actually show people bluffs to trigger this, taking pots of them is well enough).

I am almost certain he would be a lot less likely to make the call against you if you didn't take the 2 pots from him in last couple orbits.

Time Link to 00:43:19

Yeah here we go, now you value town him with the same line
The thing is the likelihood of him calling you down light has increased signifficantly although you didn't have empirical proof for it the hand where you bluffed the river, I guess you prefer pushing aggression anyway as opposed to predicting these spots and adjust once you actually get hard evidence that he calls you light/is emotionaly atached?

I know, in this spot you will almost never get a 3bet on the turn, but if it should happen, I guess that we B/F?
I anyways find that the C/R is pretty thin, even with the read that he can val.bet thinner b/c now he is IP and in the hand that had provided you the read that he can val.bet thinner, he was OOP and made a Blockbet...
I would not assume that he will necessarily bet here his 9x-hands b/c of our former note.

That's why prologion thinks it's thin, it's not at all, what's a guy playing19/10 doing there with T3o anyway? He was clearly pissed at you so much at this point and him showing up with a hand like thisor spewing with random bsis no surprise although we never saw him call a hand like this before

Time Link to 00:49:14

People don't bluf when you stack them with a big hand because of the negative emotion and punishment they remember from the time when they played back at you. Their brain remembers the pain inflicted and intuitively will bias them towards avoiding the situation that causes the pain and will skew their decision making

Time Link to 00:51:29

now you get KK again lol
It's all interesting stuff, when you 3bet+stack off the first time with nuts his intuition will have the negative imediate situation strongly imprinted, but when you do it three times something called belief in the law of small numbersthat vast majority of people have,comes in with conflicting impulses, because of the scarce distribution of nutted combos in overal distribution they expect each sample of the large population to reflect the distributions in the overal population, i.e. when you flip a coin 6 times and ask people to give you arandom sequence most people will come up with whatever sequence that has 3X Tail and 3X Heads, and in this example intuitive response that believes in the law of small numbers calculates that it's impossible to get dealt a strong hand 3 times in 5 hands and therefore you must have nothing now
I bet if he had anything nearly callable he'd snap your shove there but he had toal air.


It starts becoming a pattern and you and one more very successfull guy I know make extremely accurate predictions of behavior without knowing the actual models or reasons behind them, I guess that comes with frequent aware observation, but you need some skill to do that too (you were talking about yur knife shenanigans in CS if I recall correctly too,
that would suggest it's not just observation and experience but also a skill?)
I really have a strong feeling that it's not mostly the lines that you take but the ability to intuitivelypredict behavior of actual people that makes you successull.

Time Link to 00:53:07

Now you raise him because last time you showed him a value hand...But he called you light and you have super agro image by now and he showed you he doesn't fold T3o in the blinds.

I rest my case.I sure hope this intuitivesense is obtained more through experience and observation and less from skill. I was always terrible with a knife in my CS days

here you c/r as PFR with a straight draw on KXXs.

Do you focus on the topic of c/raising as PFR in detail somewhere or are you aware of somebody else focusing on it?
It's like literally 2 days I since I raised the question elsewhere when a nit check raised me
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/904401

I don't even know where to start as I never do it and I hardly know what it means from other people, should I be balanced? What do I rep? Doesn't it screw my betting range?
You don't see that in many vids and regs do it very very rarely

Drop down (optional), try it out, see how people respond! When you bet a flop, your opponent doesn't know you would have checkraised certain hands. Balance is completely irrelevant. The only thing that matters is your perceived range.

I dislike your bluff here, your stats + the fact that you beat him out of two pots recently one with c/r is very likely to make him pissed and not fold anything would you agree? I love it with clean image though
Or is it one of the spots that you bluff at anyway, if he folds you got a weak spot if he calls your image is even worse and you can value town him hardcore next time?

It reminded me of Syous and Chipchucker in a video where they made a huge bluff andwere tanging with a villain a ton and then made another huge bluff 250bb deep, got called with A high and went on berating the guy for calling them so light, that their range crushes him etc etc. where he was clearly emotionally attached and had his intuitive defence mechanisms
afecting his decisions (you don't need to actually show people bluffs to trigger this, taking pots of them is well enough).

I am almost certain he would be a lot less likely to make the call against you if you didn't take the 2 pots from him in last couple orbits.

Running a bluff HU is very different from running a bluff vs a 6max mass tabler. Especially at these stakes. Re-watch the 2nd episode of the thin red line where intentionally get way out of line just to proof that people don't adjust even if what you're doing is ridiculously obvious.

Yeah here we go, now you value town him with the same line
The thing is the likelihood of him calling you down light has increased signifficantly although you didn't have empirical proof for it the hand where you bluffed the river, I guess you prefer pushing aggression anyway as opposed to predicting these spots and adjust once you actually get hard evidence that he calls you light/is emotionaly atached?

I am predicting these spots: he'll mostly fold. I'm not betting purely to see if he'll call or not. Though if 2 different plays are close in EV, I'll go for the one that gives me the most information (like bluffraising that river as opposed to folding).

People don't bluf when you stack them with a big hand because of the negative emotion and punishment they remember from the time when they played back at you. Their brain remembers the pain inflicted and intuitively will bias them towards avoiding the situation that causes the pain and will skew their decision making

I have no idea to what exactly you're responding to here. There's no hand at the timestamp and my ramble seems to have started minutes ago. I'm not gonna rewatch it all to possibly get a clue about what you're responding to. Please be more specific with your posts, I've literally spend hours searching through my own videos because the questions everyone ask are so non-specific.

It starts becoming a pattern and you and one more very successfull guy I know make extremely accurate predictions of behavior without knowing the actual models or reasons behind them, I guess that comes with frequent aware observation, but you need some skill to do that too (you were talking about yur knife shenanigans in CS if I recall correctly too,
that would suggest it's not just observation and experience but also a skill?)
I really have a strong feeling that it's not mostly the lines that you take but the ability to intuitivelypredict behavior of actual people that makes you successull.

Yeah you're correct. I have some sort of "rational empathy". I've always had it. I don't think you can learn it (or I wouldn't know how to teach it anyway). It's not flawless but good enough to base decisions off.

Time Link to 00:05:39

why do you call the flop 3bet? Is it because you think you have showdown value? I understand that you raise his weak bet but when he 3bets, he is likely to have a PP that wont fold at any point in the hand or A high, that beats you too. Do you plan on make him fold A high on later street ?