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Ansky

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I am playing Schimmieta HU on FTP at 7 game. This is from the 25/50 PLO section. He plays pretty loose from the BB and seems to have a reasonable understanding of PLO, he is not particularly aggro and doesn't c/r bluff paired boards with bluffs very often I don't think.

I raise AA25r he calls. Flop is TT4 he ck calls 250 into 300. Turn 8x, he checks I check. River T, he checks, I bet 650, he makes it 2100.

As far as I can recall this is the first time he has check raise bluffed a river against me in PLO.

Posted over 2 years ago

orestto

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Hey Ansky glad to have you at DC.

I don't understand if there's a question in your post. You'll find yourself looking at quads a lot here, perhaps even another AA that for some reason didn't want to 3bet pre-flop. Getting 2:1 I think you should probably be calling here, since there's still a small chance he's bluff-raising with a hand that has no SD value, after all you don't really have to have a big pair here all the time. If he knows he hasn't bluff-raised you yet perhaps he's thinking he's going to get much respect.

Posted over 2 years ago

heh

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Nevermind me.
If he has flopped trips, I think flop call is pretty standard, but wouldn't he be betting turn unless he specifically has T8xx?

Posted over 2 years ago

Ansky

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I am playing Schimmieta HU on FTP at 7 game. This is from the 25/50 PLO section. He plays pretty loose from the BB and seems to have a reasonable understanding of PLO, he is not particularly aggro and doesn't c/r bluff paired boards with bluffs very often I don't think.

I raise AA25r he calls. Flop is TT4 he ck calls 250 into 300. Turn 8x, he checks I check. River T, he checks, I bet 650, he makes it 2100.

As far as I can recall this is the first time he has check raise bluffed a river against me in PLO.



What hand can he have that lacks showdown value?

Posted over 2 years ago

Ansky

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sorry i should clarify, the flop was rainbow.

Posted over 2 years ago

heh

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sorry i should clarify, the flop was rainbow.



Would he ever raise KKxx on this board?
Your line doesn't really look all that strong, so the question is if he's gonna be value raising a big pair (which has to be in his flop calling range) here.
I am not particularly sold on the trips turned quads theory here, because I think most trips will lead turn after calling flop unless you're really agro.

Posted over 2 years ago

delcrossb

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I prefer a bet/bet/check line here.

As played it isn't hard for him to have a T...and I don't see him turning a KK-JJ hand into a bluff. That'd just be weird. I think that given the board texture has zero possible draws, we can potentially find a fold here...but I might be a nit (probably not).

If I were playing the hand I completely see myself paying this off but I really think this is a fold in the theoretical sense.

Posted over 2 years ago




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