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Best of luck Hash and others. If you feel like tilting man take some time out and watch some 8FoldPath series. Or play Modern Warfare 2 and shoot some bastards. Helps me

lol "shoot some bastards"

Couple of notes

1. I am currently too busy to have the weekend meetings...for those of you who don't know I am moving back home and its a big move and I have a lot of stuff I need to buy and sell and need to do before I go...I will try to talk to you all on skype whenever possible but until I can get back home and settle in meetings will be off.

2. To those who took part in the 50k challenge please post your results on here so I can forward the results to Steve and he can pick the winners and we can go from there. I would like to get this wrapped up as soon as possible.Thank you

3. I know that after a strong start to I Stacks More things have more or less been in the muck for much of last month. I think this happened for a couple of reasons. This was my first attempt at running such a group and I have learned a lot from my mistakes. My plan is to continue with the group but revamp some of the structure e.g. smaller group more specific focus etc. but this wont be until about probably the end of jan start of feb.

4. As a christmas gift to each other lets talk some poker everyone (if u feel like it) should make a post on here related to their poker journey and what they feel they have learned over the last couple of months and where they are headed. It could be something as simple as I didn't know how much variance affected the game until I saw it happen to me or something like I realized that (and this is true for me) I don't tilt at all almost when I get coolered but I tilt pretty bad when I make bad plays and know I am playing bad so basically I am hard on myself when I play bad and when I play bad, the hand I played bad keeps running through my head and causes me to play future hands worse taking my off my A game and putting me on tilt.

Thats All Folks!!
GL at the Tables...Run Good and Keep Whacking'em
Merry Christmas (I know its early and no I am not drunk)
~Hash

Wow, I expected 50k hands to be rough, but I didn't realize how difficult it would be for me. I started the challenge off doing pretty well, playing every night, on track to making the goal... I'd completed 1200 hands after the first week, a lil behid track, but I didn't get to play that weekend (the time I expected to get in the bulk of my play). The second week (w/o weekend play again) I was up to 5k hands and started doubting I would get close. I'd missed 2 weekends and was behind my goal by over 6.5k hands. Nothing I couldn't make up in a couple weekends and a few more hours during the week. That's when the killer to my "I Stacks More" challenge happened and I didn't see it coming. At the beginning of week Three, my computer died and it would be a few weeks before I had the chance to go and pick up another comp, or get mine fixed.

It wet downhill from there.. in the two weeks I'd played, although a small sample I'd just stepped up from my 10NL game to 25NL (and done decently well).

I was crushed, the challenge was over half done, and I'd put in a little over 5k hands. From there, I went back to my old ways and played when I could and when I felt 100% with zero distractions, which equals no real play time. I ended playing about 5k more hands in the next few weeks at 25NL. My challenge ended at the following:
10645 hands (5838 10NL, 4807 25NL)
9.14 bb/100

I've learned that putting volume in is my downfall, I have many excuses, as many of us do. I think scheduling my play time better would be beneficial instead of playing only when I feel 100% and all other distractions are out of the way. If I schedule, then I know no matter what x time is poker time. Gonna play with that idea starting this week.

My other downfall in my opinion is not talking on skype with all of you. Making every meeting probably won't change, but catching someone on skype has to be alot simpler. Sweat sessions and hand discussions is my goal.

Well gonna cut this, get with you all later.

Poker Journey:
Since joining this group 3 months ago, I've gone from 10nl to 50nl. I took my first (properly rolled) shot at 100nl last night.

What I've learned:
1) People don't bluff at 10nl and 25nl nearly as much as you think they are. I know this is somebody's theorem, can't remember whos. When they raise the turn, they think they're ahead.

2) Your opponent is not you. He won't bet pot for the same reason. He won't realize slowplaying trips on that wet board in a 4way pot is boarderline "special needs." He will however make that mistake over and over again.
Instead of including what you would do in your thought process, start by categorizing your opponent in a very general sense and adjust your standard play based on the tendancies exuded by other players like him. As you play more hands together, you can start to worry more about specific reads and adjustments.

3) The difference in aggression by both regs and fish between 25nl and 50nl is astounding (at least on Cereus). I saw a ton of things in 10k hands at 50nl that I didnt' see at 10 or 25nl over 130k hands. Take it slow. Don't get discouraged if you have to move back down and rebuild at 25nl a few times. Most everyone does!

4) If you want to play a LAG style, get better at playing the turn and river. I suck, you suck, we all suck. Denial is a *itch.

5) To my fellow LAGtards, check out mdm13's 4table 100nl video. I got a lot out of it but nobody ever seems to recommend anything other than TubaSteve's series.

6) Turning points in my game: Exploring flop textures. When do I bet 2nd pair for value and when do I check behind? Learning which turns are better or worse for firing a 2nd bullet. FOLDING! ...and 6-bet shoving A4s 280bbs deep preflop.

you still accept new people?
i am playing nl 2-5 now.
i played a lot of sngs and i played nl 50 for good amount of hands with a solid winrate.
for some reason i cant get into my old game and i am kind of struggling even at this low stakes.
my skype nick is aikira4

I joined the 50K challenge in the 2nl 5nl bracket. I started this challenge fairly new to the whole poker world, but I thought what a better way to start than attempting something like this.

On PS I ran 21,571 hands @-6.77bb/100.
I ran into some extreme monkey tard tilt there.
Switched to fulltilt

On FT I ran 7,914 hands @ +11.95bb/100

Keep in mind prior to this challenge I only had 45k hands of experience. Also during it I attempted 2500 hands of 10NL which I think I leveled myself there thinking everyone was trying to make moves that just were not there.

Anyway I didn't make the cut in Hands needed so best of luck to anyone who did. I would also love to attempt this challenge again sometime soon. It was a learning experience to say the least.

50K Challenge results:
50,029 hands 4.18bb/100
40025 at 10nl 4.91bb/100
10004 at 25nl 1.26bb/100

I did not do as well as I had hoped but now I know I can win and can take some time to do much more learning than playing. Over all I was very happy I took part in the challenge but it did lead to putting in hands when I was sure I would have been better off going over hands/studying.

Any way here are the results. Thanks for all your hard work Hash.

bookie4390

1.Name: Sean Brodie
Skype Id: Rockhoe14er
Age: 23
Prior Poker Experience: A year
Current Play Level: 5nl and 10nl
Goal: 200nl
Multitable/How Many: 6
Previous Study Material: 2+2
Current Study Material: 2+2 and dc
Future Study Material: same

Is this group active? I play 6max 25NL Rush on FTP and would like to join please? I am Yojimgari on Skype and can seriously contribute to the group. Thanks, Yojimgari

Yoji, this group dying is the reason I joined 3B Cold 4B. I havent seen Hash on in a while. You might try PMing him on Skype to see if we can resurrect this thing.

1.Name: Luke
Skype Id: L.Fennell
Age: 20
Prior Poker Experience: as low as they go ( 2nl 6 max and some live)
Current Play Level: 2nl ( was at 5nl but too a huge hit. then a downsiowng)
Goal: to make $$$$ as i am jobless ATM
Multitable/How Many: 4 mostly. i can do 6 tbales
Previous Study Material: DC and 2+2
Current Study Material: DC and 2+2
Future Study Material: DC and 2+2

2. Other Random Suggestions or Questions: dose this cost anything for your time?

1. Thomas
Skype ID: Tomdaddy2
Prior Poker Experience: Lots of sngs (HU and 9mans) 10-50nl and some limit 6 max
Current Play Level: 10nl
Goal: poker to be a hobby that earns a nice side income (200nl+ is goal level)
Multitable: 4 tables max for cash games
Previous study: DC, occasional books, occasional private lesson
Current study: DC, SSNL book
Future Study: DC, books, occasional lessons, maybe another site when I get to 50nl and up.

2. None

name: John Gabe
skype ID: limidonk
Age: 32
Prior Poker Experience: about half a million hands of LHE, about 100k hands of HULHE, less than 100k hands of NL, about 10k hands of PLO
Current Play Level: bankroll is decimated right now, so micro
Goal: become a winning NLHE player (HU and 6max and full ring)
Multitable/How Many: i can play 6 tables of 6max NLHE at a time but i prefer to keep it at like 2 while i'm learning... i can handle about 15 or 20 tables of full ring LHE though
Previous Study Material: A few books (SuperSystem2, Helmuth's book, Slowhabit's PLO book, the first part of Easy Game), a few stoxpoker vids, lots of DC vids
Current Study Material: Easy Game part 2, lots of DC vids
Future Study Material: open to suggestions

i'd love to join this study group or any other NLHE study group (6max or HU, even full ring is fine). i think i've decided i want to make NLHE my new game (LHE was my old game, i recently dabbled in PLO but i don't think i have the stomach for it yet).

Name: Lee Hayes
Skype Id: Devour763
Age: 19
Prior Poker Experience: been playing since i was 12 but just recently got serious with money
Current Play Level: usually play $2-$6 SnGs or MTT
Goal: Become a better player and make money 1 game ill dominate the next ill get crushed i lack consistency
Multitable/How Many: 4 max
Previous Study Material: just started no previous to be honest
Current Study Material: right now im reading the theory of poker by david sklansky
Future Study Material: Many books on the list as well as DC videos

Name: Lee Hayes
Skype Id: Devour763
Age: 19
Prior Poker Experience: been playing since i was 12 but just recently got serious with money
Current Play Level: usually play $2-$6 SnGs or MTT
Goal: Become a better player and make money 1 game ill dominate the next ill get crushed i lack consistency
Multitable/How Many: 4 max
Previous Study Material: just started no previous to be honest
Current Study Material: right now im reading the theory of poker by david sklansky
Future Study Material: Many books on the list as well as DC videos

Your I bit late buddy I guess you didn't see the last post date I have not run this group for around 2 years now and have no future plans on starting a new NLHE group currently I am focusing on 6 max PLO and have a group thread of that in SHQ if your interested.
Thanks.