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Boosdoener: Episode One

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Boosdoener: Episode One by FoxwoodsFiend, Hielko

Hielko and FoxwoodsFiend kickoff their new series with Hielko having played 4-tables of mid-stakes 6max, and they review the video together.

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FoxwoodFiend takes Hielko under his wing as they explore what it takes to crush souls at 400NL and 600NL and make the move to 1000NL.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 40 minutes long
  • Posted almost 4 years ago

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sholomo321

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how come this video suddenly stops in the middle of discussion? is there part 2? or something wrong with my download?

Posted almost 4 years ago

Prologion

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Time Link to 00:13:46

Interesting bluff3bet:
They are some very well respected ppl who are advocating to just not have a 3betrange in MPvsUTG.
So of course, it is good to 3bet here your top of your foldingrange with good Blockingeffects (AJo, KQo, KJo, QJs...), but then you also should have to start to 3bet in this spot AK and QQ+ sometimes.
I wonder which strategy is more +ev longterm:
Either having here a well balanced 3betrange or just do not have any 3betrange in this spot.
Do you have any opinion on this one?

edit: damn, just noticed that he was opening to only 2,5BB UTG - that changes probably much due to your reasoning.
Anyways,
how do you both treat this spot considering the mentioned thoughts vs. a normalsized UTG-open (3-4BB), when UTG is not too nitty (UTG oR: 17%+) and has a decent high Foldto3bet_stat?

Posted almost 4 years ago

Poemmel

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Time Link to 00:13:25

I agree with 3betting there a lot, but why don't we 3bet hands like Ax, Kx or QJo here as bluffs and call with such a great hand like QJs?

There are many good reasons for calling imo:
- we have position on the pfr
- we get a great price for calling
- there is a fish in the BB against whom we want to play pots
- there is most likely another fish in the SB
- QJs plays very good multiway
- we can look very strong with our semi bluffs postflop given the positions
- its somewhat unlikely to get squeezed (players behind seem to be tagish and not all too loose and they are more likely to call to keep the fish in)
- if we overdo it we open ourselves up to get 4bet very light, cause he knows he looks very strong and we can't 5bet ship light

I know you aren't 3betting QJs there 100% of the time but I would call it probably like 95% of the time or so Grin

Posted almost 4 years ago

TazUltimate

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how come this video suddenly stops in the middle of discussion? is there part 2? or something wrong with my download?



There was corruption in the file and I had to splice it here. Believe it or not they go onto a different topic so as for them leaving off in mid discussion this was not the splicing so much as the video itself. Sorry guys.
-Rusty

Posted almost 4 years ago

dukemuckem

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funny thing, i just wanted to post exactly the same post as poemmel regarding the QJs hand. really looking forward to the next vids, great duo.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Beans

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Hielko you fckn lucksack, mbfn to receive coaching from one of the best players in the world!
anyway nice vid!
Patrick HC Amsterdam,

Posted almost 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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how come this video suddenly stops in the middle of discussion? is there part 2? or something wrong with my download?



See reply here: http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/13-Videos/topics/278811-Boosdoener-Episode-One#posts-2311921

Posted almost 4 years ago

Edmuntus

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Why fold 22 UTG (table 4)? And again on 15:50 (table 3).



You get back to it later on. When folding these low pairs, there really is almost no low flop you are hitting. When opponents catch on your not opening low pocket pairs they can just use agression to make us fold a lot on low flops when we are out of position?

Posted almost 4 years ago

goldseraph

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going to be watching every ep of this go Hielko!

Posted almost 4 years ago

Poemmel

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You get back to it later on. When folding these low pairs, there really is almost no low flop you are hitting. When opponents catch on your not opening low pocket pairs they can just use agression to make us fold a lot on low flops when we are out of position?



you could also argue the other way around.
if we do have all those small PPs in our range, we can be bluffed and floated way more easy.

the problem with opening 22 is this (at least in my opinion):
we flop an underpair 11 out of 12 times.
with that underpair we have very little equity when called and therefore need a lot of foldequity.
we might have that on the flop sometimes, but we basically have to cbet and then give up if called (or raised ofc), cause we can't barrel with only 2 outs all too often.
for our opponents this is so super easy to adjust by just floating more and just calling one and fold to the turn barrel with a medium strength hand.

and if we flop our set 1/12 times we are still utg raiser and therefore less likely to get much money in vs weaker hands.
and with 22 we can only be set over setted and not ever stack a smaller set, we basically can't cooler anyone (cause many players just play their 2 pairs very cautiously vs utg).

therefore I'd much rather have a hand like KQs to raise utg, where we can flush over flush someone or make a higher straight and were we have sooooo unbelievable more room to show aggression on further streets, which makes us way tougher to play.

don't know if thats true or the whole story, but it makes sense to me Grin

Posted almost 4 years ago

SpewKid

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Time Link to 00:28:09

Great video, really looking forward to the series.

I'm afraid I don't understand the discussion about the turn bet with the nut flush on table 1. It sounds like you advocate checking the turn so we have a wider value range on the river, which allows us to check back the turn and bluff the river more often.
I don't understand why you wouldn't bet the turn with the nut flush when at the same time you believe it's a bad spot to bluff. At least that's what it sounded like to me.
Thanks a lot

Posted almost 4 years ago

jayfly

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Can you explain why you don't want to 3bet with 50BB stacks? This is right after Hielko folded A4s to a BTN open.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Hielko

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Hielko you fckn lucksack, mbfn to receive coaching from one of the best players in the world!
anyway nice vid!
Patrick HC Amsterdam,


Thanks, GL crushing @ A'dam

You get back to it later on. When folding these low pairs, there really is almost no low flop you are hitting. When opponents catch on your not opening low pocket pairs they can just use agression to make us fold a lot on low flops when we are out of position?


See the reply from Poemmel below, and one thing to add; when we raise UTG our range is pretty strong so we shouldn't be too worried about getting bluffed. We might not have hands like bottom set, but we have overpairs all the time.

Can you explain why you don't want to 3bet with 50BB stacks? This is right after Hielko folded A4s to a BTN open.


With a shorter stacksize you have less fold equity preflop and postflop, and since A2s is going to be a bluffing hand having less fold equity is bad. At the same time we also have less implied odds in case we hit a flush on the flop/turn/river reducing the value of the hand even more.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Gert_en_Piet

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Great video, really looking forward to the series.

I'm afraid I don't understand the discussion about the turn bet with the nut flush on table 1. It sounds like you advocate checking the turn so we have a wider value range on the river, which allows us to check back the turn and bluff the river more often.
I don't understand why you wouldn't bet the turn with the nut flush when at the same time you believe it's a bad spot to bluff. At least that's what it sounded like to me.
Thanks a lot



I'm not sure if I completely got that spot either.

This is what I thought the thought process behind it is: When we bet there our range is polarized, but since we are not going to be bluffing in that spot very often we should slowplay the nuts some % of the time as well. Does that make sense?

Posted almost 4 years ago

Sugar Nut

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There was corruption in the file and I had to splice it here. Believe it or not they go onto a different topic so as for them leaving off in mid discussion this was not the splicing so much as the video itself. Sorry guys.
-Rusty



Taz,

May I make a suggestion? Just make a quick .jpg saying something like "We're sorry for the abrupt ending of this video, but we have experienced some technical dificulties with the final 15 minutes of the raw footage" and let it run for five seconds just after it cuts out.

To the content: I listened to the video today while I had to do various other things so I couldn't pay close attention, but just listening to FWF talking about poker sounded awesome. There's something in the way he approaches pokerthinking that immediately sparks my own creative thinking about this game. Looking forward to the next episodes.

Posted almost 4 years ago




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