Joeyg50
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I just finished the series (audio on the iPod is a great thing) and I had the exact same thought when accepting blame was discussed.
My example / question is: Presumably we all agree that Martin L. King's struggle for black american civil rights was a good and just cause. A good philosophy should not lead us to reject fighting for justice. Perhaps there is a way for Buddhism to lead us to the same action but for reasons other than justice.
Does the Dalai Lama believe the goal of Tibetan independence is a bad goal?
I see value in avoiding the blame game but I'm not clear how this would lead to the right action of struggling against Jim Crow or South African apartheid.
MLK was fighting for his rights and the rights of his people. He wanted to give his children better lives. Justice would be him wanting revenge for the atrocities that were put on his people. To me Justice in this sense is more like a revenge type thing. It would be like Tibet being given it's independence and then seeking sanctions or war w/ china. I think the pursuit of happiness for u and ur fellow country men or ethnic group and the fight that goes with it is not seeking justice. In South Africa most of the people that participated in aparteid were given slaps on the wrist in most cases. Justice would be seeking death penalty for all. Anyway sorry to get too deep into this just my opinion.
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Time Link to 00:42:52
should put a disclaimer in the blame game segment when it comes to law and such. As I love the idea of the not putting blame on anyone, when it comes to the law, the courtroom will likely sentence you to jail if you don't blame someone else for murdering someone you've never seen before 
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ceegee
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well done. I really enjoyed the series, and I think it's exactly what I needed in my life. If you check out my blog under the title tommy angelo saved my life, you can see why this series has helped me big time with a lot of different aspects of unhappiness.
Thank you!
Also was nice meeting both of you in Vegas, and I can't wait to see you guys again after having practiced everything in this series.
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First of all:
This was a rly great and valueable series - thank you both very much
@the "Not-Blaming-stuff":
I can only hope that this concept is not like it seems after the few minutes you have been talking about.
I rly hope that there is more sense inside and it is not correct to applicable it always.
Extreme example:
Someone you have in accident observed murdered a girl.
He is fleeing after the action and in this moment the police arrives
They are accusing you to have done this criminal action.
And now you shall be the biggest stupid idiotic victim who is alive and say "ok" and nothing more?
Ah,
come on.
I absolutely cannot agree here with myself.
There has to be more behind this concept and hence this part was tbh pretty disappointed.
Besides of this,
as said,
the whole series was great and also this part had much helpful stuff inside.
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yumyum
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If I may anticipate Tommy's response here, I think the idea is that whatever life throws at you, you have it within your power to choose to interpret it as a test - 'the Practice never ceases'. If you have a sense of moral and social justice which overrides your personal journey of self-development, that's up to you and is not at odds with the teaching. In the case of someone who has committed themselves to a life as a Buddhist monk, being thrown into jail is a test that is entirely in line with the journey they have chosen. For the rest of us, that may not be the case, and that's fine.
However, to take an example from Western culture, Timothy Leary was unfairly targeted and imprisoned, including a long stint in solitary confinement. When a friend went to visit him, he said 'I'm so high right now, I often forget that I'm in jail'. And he didn't mean he was on drugs.
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Tommy Angelo
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If I may anticipate Tommy's response here ... In the case of someone who has committed themselves to a life as a Buddhist monk, being thrown into jail is a test that is entirely in line with the journey they have chosen. For the rest of us, that may not be the case, and that's fine.
Nailed it.
There are millions of little blamings we can move away from. When I first learned blackjack, I thought it was expected that I should blame the other players for hitting when they shouldn't and therefore giving me the wrong card. Later, I got wiser, and I stopped doing that kind of blaming. It seems so silly and absurd now, to blame in that way.
It's possible to keep stepping back from blaming -- leveling -- and to see other instances of blaming change in your perception from serious to silly. What monks do is irrelevant to all this because they are so many levels removed from us.
However, to take an example from Western culture, Timothy Leary was unfairly targeted and imprisoned, including a long stint in solitary confinement. When a friend went to visit him, he said 'I'm so high right now, I often forget that I'm in jail'. And he didn't mean he was on drugs.
Gandhi was in and out of jail, totaling about 7 years in jail. He wrote about looking forward to his time in jail, and teaching his fellow rebels to do the same.
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Hey, great video, just a short comment about music, pitch and rythm.
Actually, If you sing random pitches, you are also generating rythm.
as soon as you sing a note and stop it, there is a pulse.
This becomes especially apparent when you sing two pitches in a row. How would you even get the second started without generating some form of rythm.
:-)
Equally important as far as I'm concerned.
Now of course related to commercial music, random notes is of course maybe not music in many peoples ears, but for some they might be.
Keep up the great work, thanks for the quick delivery of your book! Love it!
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