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Interesting river spot me thinks


Oink

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25/50 at Ongame. Forget about hand converter.

Poldypower is big fish at the table. Donks at every opportunity it seems at is very very much a "bet when checked to" type. He will also raise Kx or better on the flop and prolly also Tx.

Wubi is unknown but seems aggro.

Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to actiontard: [8c, 7s]
haribobears raises $50 to $50
wubi calls $50
poldypower calls $50
Dennis13x6 calls $37.50
actiontard calls $25
--- Dealing flop [7h, Tc, Kh]
Dennis13x6 checks
actiontard checks
haribobears checks
wubi bets $25
poldypower calls $25
Dennis13x6 calls $25
actiontard calls $25
haribobears calls $25
--- Dealing turn [6s]
Dennis13x6 checks
actiontard checks
haribobears checks
wubi bets $50
poldypower calls $50
Dennis13x6 calls $50
actiontard calls $50
haribobears folds
--- Dealing river [4h]
Dennis13x6 checks
actiontard checks
wubi checks
poldypower bets $50
Dennis13x6 folds
actiontard..?

Posted over 2 years ago

darkhorse

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River is a raise or a fold. Calling is out (too likelyhood that you´re beaten by poldy or anyone of the two remaining players).

I would probably fold the turn already. Since we will sometimes be beaten by wubi even if we improve and an 8 might also bring in better straights for anyone else. Also any heart is probably bad. So I would give myself roughly 3 outs and recognize that I am in a bad position to extract maximum or minimize losses if I infact do improve.

Posted over 2 years ago

DeathDonkey

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Seems standard to play it this way to this point, getting pretty good odds and maybe the best hand. River I think is clearly a call or raise. Pot is large, you have this guy beat a lot, and so its only a question of handreading wubi (darkhorse I think you misread it I believe there is only one player left behind us). I guess I'd raise.

Posted over 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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First instinct is that raise is better than call, and fold is out of the question.

Posted over 2 years ago

sushiglutton

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First instinct is that raise is better than call, and fold is out of the question.



So if u could only chose between call and fold u would call? If I understand MoP correctly that means this hand should not be in ur XR bluff range.

Posted over 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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So if u could only chose between call and fold u would call? If I understand MoP correctly that means this hand should not be in ur XR bluff range.


Yeah I'd call if someone took away my raise button. What a terrible circle of hell though.

Posted over 2 years ago

darkhorse

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Raise looks pretty hot. With one opponent left to act I wouldn´t hate a call though.

Sushi: I´m not sure but I think they mention in MoP that multiplayer poker might lead us to situation where we are better off to raise as a combination of bluff (vs Wubi) and value (vs Poldy) even though we have what looks to be a calling hand. 3-way GTO play is a lot more complex then HU play.

Posted over 2 years ago

Deepsquat1

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i think raising is best but only if you think wubi would fold something like T9, 88 or a better 7x.

He should have a hard time calling anything worse than Tx so its prob the play

Posted over 2 years ago

Oink

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So if u could only chose between call and fold u would call? If I understand MoP correctly that means this hand should not be in ur XR bluff range.



Its been a while since I looked in that book but I am pretty sure that result is for HU pots. Multiway a lot of the results for HU goes out the window.


Allright thanks for the help everybody. I did raise, Wubi did fold and poldypower did call.

Pot was shipped to me

Posted over 2 years ago

sushiglutton

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Its been a while since I looked in that book but I am pretty sure that result is for HU pots. Multiway a lot of the results for HU goes out the window.


Allright thanks for the help everybody. I did raise, Wubi did fold and poldypower did call.

Pot was shipped to me



Yeah ur right. Still have lots to learn, but I will get there. NH, WP!

Posted over 2 years ago

BusinessGypsy

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Still have lots to learn, but I will get there.




+1 for the positive attitude!

me too. At least we accept it. Smile




ciao

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