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pr1nnyraiding: Episode Two

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pr1nnyraiding: Episode Two by KRANTZ, WiltOnTilt

In Episode two, KRANTZ and WiltOnTilt talk about how to battle one of the most common player types in HU NLHE, the short stack. They begin by identifying the player type, then talk about how they play and what your General strategy should be against them. The episode concludes by discussing several examples of how to take advantage of their tendencies and exploit their strategies through hands played at 1/2nl HU.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 43 minutes long
  • Posted over 6 years ago

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vadskajagha

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LouPinella

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You guys are right on with these idiots. Personally the main issue I need to overcome is not tilting when they run and realize I can't always be sitting down in hopes of winning 2-3 buyins in a session with one player.

Funny story, so last night I let a guy play with 50BB at 1/2 which I normally don't do but knew the vid today was going to be on these low lives. So after him getting down maybe 20BB he starts talking shit. Now I normally don't condone trash talking, but when I do it I feel my talk is actually quite good. So I start giving him a little of this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnhqkpvPLis.

So after he busts his 50BB at 1/2, he says lets go 3/6. I let him sit first and he buys in for 50BB so I do the same. Obv 10 minutes later he bolts after going bust.

So as Jay talks about the opportunities with the suck out tilt and buying in full phenomenon, you can also use trash talking to bring out the guys ego.

What episode are we going to talk about deep stack's and the opponent that can switch up gears and overall is a pretty solid HU player?

4 stars just cause the topic of short stackers makes me feel dirty.

Posted over 6 years ago

Radeh

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RedJoker

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<3, made me want to play HU.

Up over 7 buy-ins before suddenly pissing back 4 and deciding that I'm probably not good enough to 3 table HU yet Gasp.

Posted over 6 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Lou, we get into playing against the better players towards week 4 and 5.

I believe next week is loose passives then weak tights then tags if i'm not mistaken. Should go in the same order as the player types we listed in episode 1.

WoT

Posted over 6 years ago

vadskajagha

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Hmm. I dont know if I should even mention this but here goes. I been looking forward to the pr1nnyraiding series ever since Krantz first mentioned em back in the limeslicer vids but me for one is a tad disappointed. It feels like these vids are made for someone who barely played poker before, like ever. Thats the quality of some of the concepts you bring up.

I realize that this is an introduction into HU and therefore you have to run the basics etc, but isnt it safe to assume that someone who is looking into playing HU have played atleast some 6/10-handed games prior to that? And dont get me wrong, supersolid content as far as beginner-stuff go for sure.

The thing is that its such a waste of talent imho, Krantz could be doing something far beyond what he is doing atm, no? Sure, you will probably evolve the series into something more advanced later on but I just personally feel that this was a weird way to go about making a fresh HU series thats supposed to be cutting edge (Im not sure if those were your exact words Krantz, prolly something more like "the b-toda-O-M-B" but anywho).

Wiltontilt brings for me nothing in these vids, he is repetitive and downright slow on making his points (sorry dude, Im sure there are tons of peeps thinking otherwise, still gonna air how I felt tho). I think wiltontilt is cramping your style as far as videomaking goes Krantz. I know this whole post will sound like a flame and whatnot, but its not, its just a fan of Krantz that had other expactations on what to come. To be honest Krantz is the only reason I still subscribe to this site since Im a 5/10+ SH player theres not that much else (atleast for me) here, and now when the prinny vs whitelime series has ended theres nothing to fill the void. As you might guess I had hoped for the HU series to be the void-filler Undecided

So ill guess Ill take my hat of to all of the DC crew and bid you adieu. It was hell of a ride tho.

PS. The whole commentary part of the limeslicer vid where you go into the psychology of realizing that anyone could be Patrik Antonius and that the ultimate nick would be a symbol that noone could type. That deep ninja thinking made me giggle like a little schoolgirl and was worth the subscription cost itself.

Posted over 6 years ago

vadskajagha

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Oh yeah, Im Swedish so bare with me on the grammatic/spelling and shit like that.

Posted over 6 years ago

calemoon

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I have to agree with vadskajagha I'm really dissapointed in this series.

Posted over 6 years ago

KRANTZ

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I have to agree with vadskajagha I'm really dissapointed in this series.



Guys, you make some points that I can agree with. This series is for the heads up beginner. That´s why it is so basic and that´s why it is at 1-2 NL. But I challenge you to find better beginners HU content anywhere.

Our membership is divided over many levels of experience. I can´t cater to everyone all at once. Keep in mind this site is veryyy young and for us to ultimately be full of relevant content for everyone, I need to be producing videos that don´t necessarily apply to everyone.

Now that THAT is out of the way. For one, vadskajagha, it´s very very silly to cancel your membership because you don´t like the particular slate of videos we´ve released so far this Season. It´s probably not even worth your time (you play 5-10, yah?) to send the cancellation email! I´d implore you to look at some of the other things that ARE present at the moment that would be of value to you. Last week I posted a 300-600NL hand for discussion in the Heads Up forum. whitelime and myself routinely drop in to offer advice and post hands in our forums. The interaction between you DCers and us is unmatched elsewhere.

Ok, Ok, but what about relevant videos? I have not forgotten about you guys nor have I been ignoring your wants. Youll be pleased to know I am actually the one behind the scenes in charge of much of the overall content development strategy. We have series planned (one that will premiere DURING Season Two that will address our lack of 6max NL videos!) for Season Three and Four... basically series ideas that were created trying to put myself in the shoes of members like you who have come here for our big NL names and have been patiently waiting for us to really strut our stuff. Trust me.

I appreciate the feedback and encourage everyone to tell us what they want to see in our Series Ideas and Request a Video thread. We are listening.

PS Vehemently disagree about WoT slowing me down. He has been my best student and always asks the best questions. Not only does he crush 1-2 HU, he is going to be crushing higher stakes HU games like he does 6max very soon as well.

Posted over 6 years ago

vadskajagha

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Guys, you make some points that I can agree with. This series is for the heads up beginner. That´s why it is so basic and that´s why it is at 1-2 NL. But I challenge you to find better beginners HU content anywhere.



I wouldnt dare challenge that, nor did I in my thread, on the contrary.


Our membership is divided over many levels of experience. I can´t cater to everyone all at once. Keep in mind this site is veryyy young and for us to ultimately be full of relevant content for everyone, I need to be producing videos that don´t necessarily apply to everyone.



Noted and understandable.


Now that THAT is out of the way. For one, vadskajagha, it´s very very silly to cancel your membership because you don´t like the particular slate of videos we´ve released so far this Season. It´s probably not even worth your time (you play 5-10, yah?) to send the cancellation email! I´d implore you to look at some of the other things that ARE present at the moment that would be of value to you. Last week I posted a 300-600NL hand for discussion in the Heads Up forum. whitelime and myself routinely drop in to offer advice and post hands in our forums. The interaction between you DCers and us is unmatched elsewhere.



Its not about the money, I was trying to make a point, and as far as point making goes you often have to state an example of direct consequence to get an impact, no matter how silly that action may be.


Ok, Ok, but what about relevant videos? I have not forgotten about you guys nor have I been ignoring your wants. Youll be pleased to know I am actually the one behind the scenes in charge of much of the overall content development strategy. We have series planned (one that will premiere DURING Season Two that will address our lack of 6max NL videos!) for Season Three and Four... basically series ideas that were created trying to put myself in the shoes of members like you who have come here for our big NL names and have been patiently waiting for us to really strut our stuff. Trust me.


Perfect! Im really excited about that paragraph! And I do understand that you are the NKOTB (always wanted to actually type that in a sentence, bojah!) and that it will take time to get everything running smoothly, but in the meantime it doesnt hurt to let us in on these thoughts you are having about the future content since it might keep us spoiled brats to check in on your site once in a while.
Again, really excited about TEH strutting of stuff!

PS Vehemently disagree about WoT slowing me down. He has been my best student and always asks the best questions. Not only does he crush 1-2 HU, he is going to be crushing higher stakes HU games like he does 6max very soon as well.



I don't doubt his skill level at all. I don't challenge his knowledge of the game, I only stated that he repeats himself A LOT and make 5 word points into 10 sentences and it just gets a little annoying at times, especially if you are accustomed to watching these kind of vids. Its like over explaining stuff. Just a tip, make it more TO-POINT/cut-to-the-chase-like. It would make for more input/vid and less repetitive stuff. (Just think about how I been saying the same thing for like ever now and how it makes you wanna pounce me Poke Tongue)

Wilt, if you're reading this, please don't take it in any other way than say if a journalist were giving you writing pointers as in how to formulate your stories to keep the audience interested rather than some 5/10 random dude telling you that you suck, because frankly we both know you don't.

peace

Posted over 6 years ago

vadskajagha

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Raise_The_Lord

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My 2cents on this discussion:

A)Krantz is god. His videos imply that he has the IQ of an MIT grad student. He ownz life in strange ways that I don't understand. His videos are always a fucking rembrant.

B)Wilt on tilt's mathematics of holdem series is pure gold. Wilt is like a modern day buddha that plays cards and gets chicks. Wilt can sometimes be very slow at saying his name. Don't do drugs kids ;--) I can picture it: Dude: What's your name man ? Wilt: ...euh... I don't know man.. Dude: What ? Wilt: I mean.euh...This is Wilt.......... on tilt. <= awkward moment, guy is thinking, he doesn't know his name ? LOL, just teasing dude. This actually happened to me once.

C)Pr1nnyraiding is going to be the best HU series of all time. Mark my words dude.

D)Your in Sweden kid go fishing, don't play poker. No offense, just imho.

E)Can I get some free coaching wilt, I did compared you to the buddha. Same question for krantz. I particulary need help dealing with personal management at the moment.

Thanks guyz you rule !

Posted over 6 years ago

Entity

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Hey vadskajagha,

Jay already addressed a lot of your concerns but it really seems to me like the earlier episodes in this series for sure aren't really targeted at you. Especially with things like this:

Its like over explaining stuff. Just a tip, make it more TO-POINT/cut-to-the-chase-like. It would make for more input/vid and less repetitive stuff. (Just think about how I been saying the same thing for like ever now and how it makes you wanna pounce me Poke Tongue)


When you understand something, it's inevitable that it will sound like someone is repeating things time and time again -- but when you don't, it really can be helpful to have someone like Aaron who is great at exploring different ways to get a point across. His Mathematics series was hugely popular and it's for that reason -- he can take a concept that many players don't understand well (take TUPAC for example) and put it in a way that is accessible to a large portion of the poker playing/learning population. Unfortunately for you (or perhaps forunately, because it means you're ahead of the curve) -- you aren't going to get as much out of it.

There is some pretty sick stuff we have planned for users like you, but our goal is always quality first, and that means we've got a content map to build up to so that our users can learn to get better with us. We will NEVER rush something out just to meet a demand -- it's not part of who we are. That doesn't mean we've forgotten you, it just means that we don't take the strategy of promising all sorts of "things to come" -- we've never been the sort of company to do that. We like to focus as much as we can on our current quality of materials and while I can see that being a bit frustrating because you can't see our big plan at all, we hope you stick around for a while to see the developments that will come once we have a large enough community that can let us have a little 'flexibility' with some of the projects we'd like to bring to light.

Hopefully you take this in such a way that you see that we appreciate the comments, but hope you can not see videos for what they are at the same time as you're telling us how we can improve. I know that's a tough job, but I hope you can understand where we're coming from and that we definitely *are* listening to what you have to say and suggest, but that we also hope you can see that we take the approach that if you try to design something for everyone, you'll inevitabily design something that doesn't work for anybody -- and we want to avoid that.

Ok, enough general Deuces philosophy. I'll end by suggesting that you stick around, because as much as I hate promising things to come, well, we've got some things...down the road. And we always listen to what you have to say. Smile

Rob

Posted over 6 years ago

vadskajagha

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D)Your in Sweden kid go fishing, don't play poker. No offense, just imho.



May i hug you, snuggle you, kiss you on the cheek and call you daddy? I love to be called "kid" at the age of 27.

How come you recommend fishing? If I were to plan a fishing trip i would much rather go to some streams up north in the US, like up in Alaska than to go about it here in Sweden actually.

But I agree, poker should always come second to fishing, pottery and/or constructing tall tall papier mache buildings that you later smash (See why i love the kid part?).

Posted over 6 years ago




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