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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Syous (Mid Stakes)

Not much on the content - but you asked on the 3 or 4 thing.
I think you two have a good flow and Syous LAG style and questioning every spot gives enough content.

sooo no change for mine.

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I can def find spots vs. different guys and dynamics where I would both ship and flat on that board, but I think if you're going to take the raise route, esp w/no other dynamics, shipping has to look bluffier than a smallish raise imo. (which would make it a great spot to semi-bluff raise small, it just looks so strong).

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I put him on the installment plan on the turn and bet like $50-60 so I can ship a lot of rivers. If he has a K he's stacking you anyway and I don't want to give him a free card when I think he has a lot of worse hands that will call down, just give him some candy and let him find the razorblades imo.

Nice calling 4b calling discussion!

I put him on the installment plan on the turn and bet like $50-60 so I can ship a lot of rivers. If he has a K he's stacking you anyway and I don't want to give him a free card when I think he has a lot of worse hands that will call down, just give him some candy and let him find the razorblades imo.

Meh, i don't really agree that he's got a lot of worse hands that are gonna stack off (I guess "a lot" is relative, so w/e). Yeah, I think his Qx hands stack off, but I think he gets away from 99-JJ either on the turn or the river.

I think in hindsight, we need to bet a bit bigger on the flop to set up a less than PSB shove. But if we do play it that way, I still like checking the turn. It's just the best way to get a hero call out of him IMO. Like if he has 99-JJ I think he's very likely to just dump it if we shove turn, but if we "show weakness" on the turn, his chance of hero calling us goes way up.

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I think we're calling 74 to win 138 giving us a little worse than 2:1.. no?

Meh, i don't really agree that he's got a lot of worse hands that are gonna stack off (I guess "a lot" is relative, so w/e). Yeah, I think his Qx hands stack off, but I think he gets away from 99-JJ either on the turn or the river.

I think in hindsight, we need to bet a bit bigger on the flop to set up a less than PSB shove. But if we do play it that way, I still like checking the turn. It's just the best way to get a hero call out of him IMO. Like if he has 99-JJ I think he's very likely to just dump it if we shove turn, but if we "show weakness" on the turn, his chance of hero calling us goes way up.

I would think 99-JJ would go in preflop some % of the time. Even if he has those hands 100% if he's a loose fishy dude he can have AT/AJ/9T/TJ any flush draw/any Q etc. etc. and I don't think he's going to fold any of that for a cheap turn bet.

If you bet bigger on the flop I def agree with checking the turn.

I think we're calling 74 to win 138 giving us a little worse than 2:1.. no?

haha, yeah..pretty basic stuff. it's funny how my brain can't do simple math when under pressure like that. so yeah, clear fold imo.

49:00 - you beat or chop with all missed FDs unless they hit the king

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OK wait a minute,

first you talk about the fact that lower SPRs favour the guy in position and that if you were playing Ivey you'd rather have 2bb stacks than anything higher, and now you wanna play 9-hi with an SPR of 1.9 to outplay the guy, clearly taking the worst of it even vs his bluffing range?

I've noticed a trend of regs calling 4bets recently and already wondered if there was a video out about how awesome putting in 20% of your stack with 9-hi is.
So, everybody thinks he's Jman now (who's playing in totally different games and is obv a way better player than all of us).

I admit that there's some merit to your point of calling our entire continue range, but I have trouble believing that this will yield a higher EV than NOT 3betting 97s in the first place (you know, high SPR, position, that sorta thing)

OK wait a minute,

first you talk about the fact that lower SPRs favour the guy in position and that if you were playing Ivey you'd rather have 2bb stacks than anything higher, and now you wanna play 9-hi with an SPR of 1.9 to outplay the guy, clearly taking the worst of it even vs his bluffing range?

I've noticed a trend of regs calling 4bets recently and already wondered if there was a video out about how awesome putting in 20% of your stack with 9-hi is.
So, everybody thinks he's Jman now (who's playing in totally different games and is obv a way better player than all of us).

I admit that there's some merit to your point of calling our entire continue range, but I have trouble believing that this will yield a higher EV than NOT 3betting 97s in the first place (you know, high SPR, position, that sorta thing)

I'm unfortunately not a math guy but when ranges get that wide, you're pretty much looking to shove flop with any pair or draw. It'd be interesting to see how it works but the last time I talked to someone about it, he said some estimates he did out loud and it seemed pretty correct.

Sometimes you get bluffed, sometimes you push him off the best hand, sometimes you have odds to stick it in against his range, sometimes you pick up a big pot when he bet/folds... if anyone wants is willing to do some maths against ranges and flops it'd be a great discussion.

It's definitely an interesting experiment, if I played 6m regularly, it's how I would play against the small 4bettors, that or I'd min5bet them.



Also something you forget to mention is that this is the OOP player's tool to combat light 3bettors. By making them play out of position like this constantly, I would assume most players would stop battling you pre-flop because they're going to constantly be in sticky situations. That alone is worth calling 4bets w/our continuing range imo.

One of the best 6-max videos on DC Syous: occasionally you cut Chipchucker off a little, which is something you could work on; however, this is a minor thing and your contribution is in general excellent. Looking forward to more.

One of the best 6-max videos on DC Syous: occasionally you cut Chipchucker off a little, which is something you could work on; however, this is a minor thing and your contribution is in general excellent. Looking forward to more.

thanks, that means a lot!

I definitely have a bad habit of cutting him off, I'll do my best to work on it.

Btw guys, any interest in doing 3/6 and 5/10 or would you all prefer 2/4 content?

I would think 99-JJ would go in preflop some % of the time. Even if he has those hands 100% if he's a loose fishy dude he can have AT/AJ/9T/TJ any flush draw/any Q etc. etc. and I don't think he's going to fold any of that for a cheap turn bet.

If you bet bigger on the flop I def agree with checking the turn.

Yeah, 99-JJ shove some of the time..i think a passive fish is flatting them pretty often tho. You know, he wants to see a safe flop before committing, etc etc. Seems like a bit of a stretch for him to be calling turn w/ AT/AJ (but yeah i guess he's a fish, so he'll do that once in a while) and a BIG stretch to call w/ T9. But yeah, w/ FDs, JT and worse Qx, betting 60 on turn seems pretty good.