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2 X 6: Episode One

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2 X 6: Episode One by fslexcduck

In Episode one of 2x6, Vanessa takes you through an introduction to the importance of preflop hand selection, being able to make the nuts, and position, position, position.

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Vanessa shows whitelime how to not lose $300k playing PLO in this small stakes PLO series! The transition from NLHE to PLO is difficult, but it's a road Vanessa walked down herself. Watch her analyze whitelime's leaks and follow his progress. Can an elite high stakes No Limit player make the leap to Omaha? Tune in and find out!

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  • Game: plo
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 43 minutes long
  • Posted about 5 years ago

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Omahahaha

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Thanks for the insight. As you point out there really is no practical usage for the information x4 better or x6 better, however as part of a video series aimed at new Omaha players, accuracy of information is paramount.

I agree with your point, knowing it's better is valuable, and knowing why is pure gold, however (as with books) I do expect the information to be correct and accurate as I am paying for the advise.

Just thought that this could be cleared up for new players (and with the new video viewer beta this info could be tagged to the video file directly, which I almost did myself, but wanted to check I was correct before doing so.)

Furthermore the Omaha video notes that KasinoKrime is so generous in providing to members who request it is based on the info in the video (and others) and as such it duplicates this error, further spreading inaccurate information with DeucesCracked as the primary source.

**Fingers crossed** that I am not coming across as a total tool... I am just wanting to check on my math/logic, to help others and improve the site for all users.

Cheers
Omahahaha

Posted almost 4 years ago

aidantam

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Joined 08/2009

Another thing, 4 choose 3 is the same as 4 choose 1, which is 4, not six.

Posted almost 4 years ago

black666

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love the introduction.

just one thing: you explained with 2 hand examples why danglers suck so much. you compared T987 with T972 .. I don't think it's a fair comparison if you are only talking about danglers and why they suck, because you not only added a dangler but also a gap. Obviously you will love a lot less flops with T972 than with T987 but it's not only because of the dangler (and that's the point you were trying to get across).

A fair comparison would have been T987 against T982

Posted over 3 years ago

pingu

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McCronPoker

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Time Link to 00:37:46

"6-9 anything" definitely made me laugh out loud... and in general, I find 69 jokes/references annoying, that says something. You are one of the more entertaining coaches on DC. You sound more fluid when you speak, like you are just shooting the breeze as opposed to analyzing the zzzzz'ness of the games.

Posted over 3 years ago

5SpeedLimit5

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I think I know how 4 choose 3 is mistakenly being described as 6. 4 choose 2 is 6, which is the number of 2-card hold'em hands you have with 4 cards. This 6 is incorrectly being used to describe something entirely different, the number of ways of choosing 3 cards out of 4 from KQJT. As noted by many others, 4 choose 3 is 4. Hope this clarifies things.

Posted over 3 years ago

hp67

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Time Link to 00:21:34

The video started well and seems to contain interesting and important
points but she really mixes things in this slide correcting herself back and forth all the time not really knowing what to say ... should
have prepared this slide a lot better : ( ... apart from that will
continue to watch with great interest

Posted almost 3 years ago

AKQJ10

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Time Link to 00:31:39

Just getting to see this awesome hand history storyboard sequence is reason enough to learn PLO in itself. I am now fulfilled as a poker player.

By following Vanessa's advice one day I too can build up the bankroll to freeroll against donkeys for piles and piles of "25K" chips.

Posted almost 3 years ago

anikah

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Joined 08/2010

great video. i think im going to get alot out of this series. thanks

Posted over 2 years ago

onliness

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Hello!

In starting watching the video now and I'm not familiar with the term 'rap' or 'wrap', someone can explain it to me?

Posted over 2 years ago

diab0lic

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Hello!

In starting watching the video now and I'm not familiar with the term 'rap' or 'wrap', someone can explain it to me?




A wrap is a "rundown" hand like 8764 or 8654 or T987, etc...

Posted over 2 years ago

dxBrian

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Vanessa said 4 cards to a wrap, such as T987, is much better than 3 cards(with a pair), to a wrap such as T997, but the math shows she is wrong.

I ran the equity through pro poker tools, it shows T997 is a 70/30 favorite over T987. Also, T887 is a 54/46 favorite over T987.

Also, T987 is approx 53/47 vs xxxx whereas T997 and T887 are close to 60/40.

Posted about 2 years ago

fslexcduck

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Vanessa said 4 cards to a wrap, such as T987, is much better than 3 cards(with a pair), to a wrap such as T997, but the math shows she is wrong.

I ran the equity through pro poker tools, it shows T997 is a 70/30 favorite over T987. Also, T887 is a 54/46 favorite over T987.

Also, T987 is approx 53/47 vs xxxx whereas T997 and T887 are close to 60/40.



When you find the game that involves going all in preflop every time, then you're right, up against each other, you'd rather have T997 than T987.

My point was that T987 flops much better and plays much better than T997 when you're up against other hands. It flops very nicely and gives you great equity on many flops.

Furthermore, if you run the equities not against xxxx, but against the top 30% of hands, or whatever it is that people are likely to play, then T987 actually does better hot and cold than T997 does. For instance, against AAKK, T987 is 39% whereas T997 is 33%.

Posted about 2 years ago

dxBrian

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Thanks - great to get a comment with the thread so old. I hope you continue your good run for the rest of the year.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Magnum

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Even though this video is like 3 years old, i just wanna say thanks Wink

Posted almost 2 years ago




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