---

Poker Video: Pot-Limit Omaha by fslexcduck (Mid Stakes)

is it advised to become a good NL player before trying to learn PLO? i currently play 50NL

69anything!

One question about when you say the gap in the run:
You say when the gap in the run is higher, you make more nuts. But isn't the gap in 8764 lower than in 8654. Like, isn't 5 lower than 7? Maybe I am misunderstanding your notation, so I just wanna make sure for the next videos what you mean by that.

Thanks for the great video.

69anything!

One question about when you say the gap in the run:
You say when the gap in the run is higher, you make more nuts. But isn't the gap in 8764 lower than in 8654. Like, isn't 5 lower than 7? Maybe I am misunderstanding your notation, so I just wanna make sure for the next videos what you mean by that.

Thanks for the great video.

Enjoyed the video, but was also confused by this. Also will this series be tailored to 6max or fullring?

I was curious about the 6 max or full ring, too.

However, the concepts in this video would apply to both as it was more about general pre flop hand strength analysis.

I don't think your logic about the higher gap being much less valuable than the lower gap in wrap hands is correct. Check it out:

4568: 23x flop-13 outs to nuts, 74x flop-13 outs to nuts, 57x flop-10 outs to nuts 67x flop-6 outs to nuts, 78 flop-3 outs to nuts

4678: 35x flop-13 outs to nuts, 45x flop-13 outs to nuts, 57x flop-10 outs to nuts, 65x flop-10 outs to nuts, 9Tx-3 outs to nuts

So as you can see, the two hands are virtually identical, with only 4 nut outs of difference between the two in all the different combination of wraps combined. I really don't see why you would treat these two hands much differently or any differently at all preflop. If I'm wrong, please let me know.

Awesome video, Vanessa. I've always wanted to find a good introduction to PLO somewhere and voila!

One stated goal of the series is to be able to beat $100 PLO tables, but what does that mean in terms of winrate? I have been told that PLO plays twice as big as NLH meaning that 7 or 8 poker tracker bets per 100 hands is the goal, is this correct?

(4 choose 3) is the same as (4 choose 4-3) = (4 choose 1) = 4 =/= 6 no?

I don't think your logic about the higher gap being much less valuable than the lower gap in wrap hands is correct. Check it out:

4568: 23x flop-13 outs to nuts, 74x flop-13 outs to nuts, 57x flop-10 outs to nuts 67x flop-6 outs to nuts, 78 flop-3 outs to nuts

4678: 35x flop-13 outs to nuts, 45x flop-13 outs to nuts, 57x flop-10 outs to nuts, 65x flop-10 outs to nuts, 9Tx-3 outs to nuts

So as you can see, the two hands are virtually identical, with only 4 nut outs of difference between the two in all the different combination of wraps combined. I really don't see why you would treat these two hands much differently or any differently at all preflop. If I'm wrong, please let me know.

yeah i meant to post a correction, so thank you. it does wind up making a difference when you are playing, but I know my math was quite incorrect in the slide. i just had a major brain fart.

but notice - there is also the question of when you do make the nuts on the turn, will it remain the nuts by the river - i think you'll notice that on your nut flops for the first hand, there are more cards that can peel off on the river that will put higher straights out there. (double check because first off this isn't my strong point and i'm pretty tired right now) once again, this winds up being a factor (mostly in multiway pots rather than heads up pots, which is something we don't get into too much during this series but i discuss a great deal in my other PLO series which will air either in season 3 or 4) but not too terribly important most of the time.

I was curious about the 6 max or full ring, too.

However, the concepts in this video would apply to both as it was more about general pre flop hand strength analysis.

exactly - this analysis i did was to get you thinking about the kinds of things you want to be thinking about when going about your game. in terms of a chart of hands to play, it's kind of tough - but after you put in some hours and watch this series, hopefully you'll have a good idea of what a reasonable starting range is for 6max at least.

69anything!

One question about when you say the gap in the run:
You say when the gap in the run is higher, you make more nuts. But isn't the gap in 8764 lower than in 8654. Like, isn't 5 lower than 7? Maybe I am misunderstanding your notation, so I just wanna make sure for the next videos what you mean by that.

Thanks for the great video.

yeah, thanks for the correction - that was just me misspeaking. i meant when the gap in the hand is lower, you make the nuts more often (and keep the nuts more often too!)

i think the sound is still not working on the sample for those not logged in, if this matters, sweet vid, ty

Pretty sweet MS Paint action on the example hands.

i think the sound is still not working on the sample for those not logged in, if this matters, sweet vid, ty

Thanks much for pointing that out, I fixed it.

Rob

Great! Now I can hopefully win back the 800$ I donked off in PLO before signing up here