Pot Limit Omaha Poker Forums

Villain is 34/18 and we played an earlier hand where he called my reraise in position and mini bluff raised a 344 two tone flop and folded when I shoved. He's on 4 or 5 of my tables so he's probably decent.

Poker Stars $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 85776
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $2798.25
BTN: $1329.75
SB: $689.00
Hero (BB): $2421.75
UTG: $1015.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with 2 K 2 K
1 fold, CO raises to $25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $80, CO calls $55

Flop: ($165.00) 6 6 T (2 players)
Hero bets $120, CO raises to $320, Hero calls $200

Turn: ($805.00) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $610, Hero calls $610

River: ($2025.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1160

seems like our hand is a bluffcatcher. and unless he's capable of a 3 barrel bluffing for 240bb stacks, i think it's a fold. i think we can discount a 6 from his range due to the min raise. i guess that's the tricky part of the hand is the flop min raise and what his range is there. seems like it can be a boat, trips, or aces with or without the nfd. he may have the fl or nf blocker & when he's not rr on the turn, feels like his hand is good. pretty awful river for our hand. it would be a soul read.

what likely range are you putting him on after the flop action? and what's his agg factor?

edit:i play plo .25/.5 -1/2

SS-er chiming in with a limited reply.

I don't think we can totally discount out a 6. I also think we will be shown a lot of a-a type hands. I personally like the turn call and a fold on the river.

It does feel like there is something kinda off with this hand... such a narrow range of hands make sense here but he probably just has TTxx,6xxx or even JJxx that he backed into. I'd fold river... you look pretty strong and if he has should see that you're generally full and not just on a naked flush at the river(barring a few hands like ATxx spades, etc).

Even tho it seems transparent, I would definitely consider check-calling flop vs. this player if I thought I could get away with it.

Wow. This is a really tough spot and my decision on whether or not I should call the river depends heavily on what type of dynamic you and Villain were creating.

I don't think his river value-betting has TT**/JJ** very often, unless it has a 6 to go with it since your range has a bunch of 6xxx and it's too optimistic to expect you to call with worse than TT** on the river.

Unless I've seen him make this type of bluff with these bet sizes, I fold. I also noticed he didn't put you all-in even though it's a few more hundred. I don't know what we should make of that.

This sucks, but it seems like it's only a call if you think he's capable of turning TT**/JJ** into a bluff on the river.

Hi, I'm worried I'm losing my mind here or don't know the full rules of PLO so I was just hoping you could explain.

I don't understand how the villain can be turning JJXX or TTXX into a bluff on the river.
Surely with JJxx on a J66T6 board we have the second nuts? Why isn't JJJ66 the second nuts?
I don't see what we could possibly be bluffing as a 6 is not folding? Surely if we're betting JJXX here it is for value, no?
I've looked at this from a bunch of angles and I don't know what I'm seeing wrong. Thanks for any help.

AMT got a little too creative. No one is going to turn JJ**/TT** into a bluff here. Or at least no one I know of.

If those hands are betting, it's for value and it's pretty common if there's an aggro dynamic and your opponent is clicking like he's playing Minesweeper.

Hey thanks for clearing that up.
I'd been staring at this hand for so long and thinking about so many reasons for why the villain might take these bunch of lines with these bunch of hands and what have you that I blew my own mind into a strange alternate dimension.
Had a really bad feeling that I'd missed something basic in the rules of PLO (or something incredibly unique that you rarely hear about) and that maybe JJJ66 had been counterfeited in some bizarre way.

Yeah I'm a n00b, obviously that doesn't seem right when you think about hand strengths correctly

Still a crappy spot though!!

Yeah I'm a n00b, obviously that doesn't seem right when you think about hand strengths correctly

Still a crappy spot though!!

Hey it's no problem at all. I mis-read at least one hand / flop / situation / thread / warning sign every day.

he has TT, quads, or AA w/ nfd every time. No reg at 5/10 is bluffing here and id fold unless given 5-1+ odds (unless hes known to be super spazzy but his minraise on the 334 flop isnt really that spazzy and doesnt correlate with a 3 street super-bluff)