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#### improva

3762 posts
Joined 02/2008

The sum of our expected value and villains is 8bb (the dead money in the pot). I was a little lazy in the first equation and did not divide by 47.

#### Zippoquick

38 posts
Joined 04/2008

I dont get it, I put 5 into the EV formula and got 63.5. (8+5)*42-96.5*5= 63.5. I thought this was the EV for the preflop caller if we bet 5bb.

Congrats on the marriage, thought youd be on a honeymoon in Paris by now =)

#### improva

3762 posts
Joined 02/2008

I dont get it, I put 5 into the EV formula and got 63.5. (8+5)*42-96.5*5= 63.5. I thought this was the EV for the preflop caller if we bet 5bb.

Congrats on the marriage, thought youd be on a honeymoon in Paris by now =)

Ev(x) = (8+96.5)*5/47 - x*42/47

His expected win - his expected loss

I hope that helps...

#### Zippoquick

38 posts
Joined 04/2008

Thanks Oliver it helps =)

Just for checking I got it right, the EV for the preflop caller is around 6.6BB?

#### improva

3762 posts
Joined 02/2008

yup - glad I could help

#### DonkHero

1155 posts
Joined 07/2008

HAs anyone else gotten PM offers to trade Poker Puzzle for "Let there be range"?

Obv, I wouldn't do this on principle alone + what I hear is Poker Puzzle is a better book anyway

#### improva

3762 posts
Joined 02/2008

HAs anyone else gotten PM offers to trade Poker Puzzle for "Let there be range"?

Obv, I wouldn't do this on principle alone + what I hear is Poker Puzzle is a better book anyway

I have heard of a couple of other readers who got the same - I guess - PM.

#### dauv

135 posts
Joined 06/2008

Just started reading the book a few days ago. Really like the content so far! I find some of the exercises & questions quite hard though (guess thats a good thing, since it prolly means I havn't been thinking enough about the situations). I think a few actual hand/situation examples in the book would be a good thing (though I guess the idea about the book, is that the reader need to learn how to solve the situations himself, but a few examples would be great imo).

I hope I can finish all the exercises & questions by myself before the coaching, since I would feel like a student who had not done his homework comming to class.

#### improva

3762 posts
Joined 02/2008

Just started reading the book a few days ago. Really like the content so far! I find some of the exercises & questions quite hard though (guess thats a good thing, since it prolly means I havn't been thinking enough about the situations). I think a few actual hand/situation examples in the book would be a good thing (though I guess the idea about the book, is that the reader need to learn how to solve the situations himself, but a few examples would be great imo).

I hope I can finish all the exercises & questions by myself before the coaching, since I would feel like a student who had not done his homework comming to class.

I agree with you

A few good examples never hurt anyone.
Here you can all post suggestions to the book:

http://thepokerpuzzle.lighthouseapp.com/dashboard

#### dauv

135 posts
Joined 06/2008

@improva: The site seems to be down?

#### improva

3762 posts
Joined 02/2008

@improva: The site seems to be down?

https://thepokerpuzzle.lighthouseapp.com/dashboard

Try this one.. maybe that is better..

#### Minds eye

29 posts
Joined 11/2008

I agree with you

A few good examples never hurt anyone.
Here you can all post suggestions to the book:

http://thepokerpuzzle.lighthouseapp.com/dashboard

I had hard time figuring some situations out in the book too when I read it for the 1st time. But most of them cleared out when I read the book for the 2nd and the 3rd time. I'll definetly read it a few times more because memorising stuff is getting harder and harder for me. I am 25. But I feel like my mind is from a 90year old dude.

#### improva

3762 posts
Joined 02/2008

I can tell you all that there is a new version in the works.

- A few examples (due to public demand )
- Playing deep
- Capped ranges
- Typos

#### DonkHero

1155 posts
Joined 07/2008

Sweats - Pay it forward style - So, I have the book, obv, and one lesson with Oliver under my belt. Been crushing 50nl (and spewing a little back @ 100nl). If anyone is playing @ the same limits and wants a sweat, let me know. Always cool to make some new poker buddies, and I think I can help out, especially @ 25 or 50nl (even though I doubt anyone else here is playing that low).

On the flip side, if any of you higher limit guys are feeling charitable, and wanna sweat me playing 100nl, id love some input.

I typically play 3-4 nights a week from like 10p-1a pacific us time. Skype and mikogo all set up.

PM me here and ill get back to you with contact info.

#### Ms.Bungle

823 posts
Joined 06/2008

Sweats - Pay it forward style - So, I have the book, obv, and one lesson with Oliver under my belt.
Always cool to make some new poker buddies, and I think I can help out, especially @ 25 or 50nl (even though I doubt anyone else here is playing that low).

Oh, I'LL be playing that low!
Course, it might not help YOU out all that much!

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