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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by inavacuum (Micro/Small Stakes)

he can also have Q9 here

Yes he can.

42:40

On this hand if we river an 8 or 10 do we just check behind and make a not on what he plays this way?

Thanks and great series

Time Link to 00:40:20

Included the time line for my previous question - Thanks

I like this series a lot. I can't wait for the next one, when disaster strikes. I'm thinking maybe you secretly recorded some of my sessions. I can't tell you how many hands in this series look like hands I've played except they constantly show up with the hands you don't expect them to have.

42:40

On this hand if we river an 8 or 10 do we just check behind and make a not on what he plays this way?

That's what I'd do in that spot, yes.

Couple of questions on your double float with ten high.

Does this rely on you having had showdown information that he would not empty the clip with air?

Also - how much weight in your decision to double float is based upon the composition of his 3bet OOP range?
If villian was capable of c/r bluffing on an unknown no. of streets AND he would always 3-bet for value PF AK and 3bet for thin value KQ and KJ vs your loose opening range - would this alter your capacity to float vs his flop c/r range?
Alternatively - if he was quite passive PF OOP but very aggressive post-flop so all his AK KQ and KJ would c/r for value the flop and lead the turn but sometimes go for 3 sts and sometimes bluff catch - would this alter your float plan and why?
Also - Hero is a floater and you think it is likely that he has seen you float in similiar spots would this make you more inclined to bet/3-bet flop as a bluff rather than float.

Finally

Alter the board where the top rank is not the flush particpating rank.
i.e. K75 Turn 2
Does this alter your equity?
If the river came K
with your read of spazzey/100NL lag - would you bluff catch 10xhh if he shoved when as you said he never expects you to fold?

Does this rely on you having had showdown information that he would not empty the clip with air?

It doesn't rely on it. It does help. I'll generally assume that most NL100 regs will not fire all 3 until I know otherwise. This could be revised for Stars/FT where much of the play is a little ahead of the Euro sites for each relative stake, but it's very close.

Also - how much weight in your decision to double float is based upon the composition of his 3bet OOP range?
If villian was capable of c/r bluffing on an unknown no. of streets AND he would always 3-bet for value PF AK and 3bet for thin value KQ and KJ vs your loose opening range - would this alter your capacity to float vs his flop c/r range?

Obviously this scenario makes us more likely to float a c/r that doesn't make sense.

Alternatively - if he was quite passive PF OOP but very aggressive post-flop so all his AK KQ and KJ would c/r for value the flop and lead the turn but sometimes go for 3 sts and sometimes bluff catch - would this alter your float plan and why?

In this scenario we should be less likely to float/bluff catch, but we'd have to have some specific reads that this is how villain plays.

Also - Hero is a floater and you think it is likely that he has seen you float in similiar spots would this make you more inclined to bet/3-bet flop as a bluff rather than float.

It would make me more likely to fold and just slowplay my big hands instead by bet/calling his flop c/r. If we think villain is going to exploit us by making very thin check-raises we can just check back the flop with our entire range.

Finally

Alter the board where the top rank is not the flush particpating rank.
i.e. K75 Turn 2
Does this alter your equity?
If the river came K
with your read of spazzey/100NL lag - would you bluff catch 10xhh if he shoved when as you said he never expects you to fold?

It may well alter our literal equity but nowhere near enough to change how we view the hand. If we river a flush on a K that pairs the board we of course have to call the river shove, it just means that it's extremely likely that he has Kx he's shoving for value. He doesn't have K7, K5 or K2 so that's fine.

Good series...like that you put an nl25 player in nl100 spots, hear there thoughts, and explaining yours...good stuff.

Time Link to 00:06:32

Hi inavacuum

I got some questions about him 3 barreling and our line:

When we c/c the flop we don't really have Ax, so when we c/c the turn he should know we dont have an Ace unless we hit 2pair but we actually fold A5s-A7s pre I guess.

I assume c/raising A8s (if we call pre)on the flop or leading wud be best so we can't really have that, in general we dont hv a draw when we c/c and a set we had raised although c/calling a set would be kind of interesting here...anyway, so our hand is face up

Given all that when we c/c the turn I feel we have to c/c river? Or do you think we can fold if he bets the river? Btw I mean a non 4 str8 river, where he would still bet Ax, and a bluff would make sense as well.

Also I think not many people cbet air on 567r when somebody calls oop because that hits their range as we all know.

So what do you do vs a 3barrel? Or do you just fold the turn on A or K when you know villain likes to barrel but also will vbet if he has it?

Hi inavacuum

I got some questions about him 3 barreling and our line:

When we c/c the flop we don't really have Ax, so when we c/c the turn he should know we dont have an Ace unless we hit 2pair but we actually fold A5s-A7s pre I guess.

I assume c/raising A8s (if we call pre)on the flop or leading wud be best so we can't really have that, in general we dont hv a draw when we c/c and a set we had raised although c/calling a set would be kind of interesting here...anyway, so our hand is face up

Given all that when we c/c the turn I feel we have to c/c river? Or do you think we can fold if he bets the river? Btw I mean a non 4 str8 river, where he would still bet Ax, and a bluff would make sense as well.

Also I think not many people cbet air on 567r when somebody calls oop because that hits their range as we all know.

So what do you do vs a 3barrel? Or do you just fold the turn on A or K when you know villain likes to barrel but also will vbet if he has it?

We can have A5-A7s here but I'd like some reads to exploit first. The fact that he thinks we don't have much Ax is added incentive for him to bet again. It's also a good spot for him to bet the river. The thing is, many many regs at NL100 just won't do it. They have a single, or more often, double barrel strategy and don't fire the third one even when they can do so profitably which leaves them never bluffing when they do bet the river. I would like some more information before I assume he will automatically fire 3 here. I do not think it matters at all that our hand is face up because he's sticking to his gameplan and not changing it as far as we know. Villain shouldn't really be cbetting this flop but a huge number of SS regs do it anyway and then give up on the river (or turn if it's a bad card), as evidenced here. When I see more regs/relative unknowns taking a more profitable line I would start calling 3 barrels by default rather than 2 in this spot as I would do in a higher stake game.

I think jamming over the c/r is spew in the 65s hand. It's total disaster to get it in vs a flush draw. If you think he's bluffing, we can take away the pot on a later street so I think best plan is to call on the flop. Can you explain more why jamming is better play?

Time Link to 00:18:33

Time link doesn't seem to work... I was talking about the hand around minute 18.

What happens if the river wasn't a blank but like a 8 or a 8 ?
Do you still go for the check/call no matter what?

Or if I state the question a bit different, which card would make you check/fold the river?

Re: Double Float.

How much of this involves your table image?

Say we were playing a similiar player but now its not inavacuum
its a tight 18/16 TAG who is opening UTG rather than MP.
Now assume its 108s but it can easily just be QJs or JTs....or whatever makes sense for that player to have in his UTG range.

Do you think that given PF positional protection and a far tighter perceived range - that this would alter Spazz LAGs c/r flop lead turn range to make double floating unprofitable?
i.e. He might not 3bet PF AK vs us in this instance - thus his range for c/r flop is now 12 combos of AK as well as the 3 combos of 55,77s - with the unknown number of air bluffs?

Also is there any turn river combo that would disincline you to shove without picking up marginal showdown value with a pair of tens or eights.

EG K57 Rainbow turn 6 river 3 completing a bdfd or K57QJ no flush.

Finally
As played - How would you breakdown villians range to do this? Clearly its polarised
i.e. What is the bottom of his c/r for value lead turn shove river?
also
What is the best hand villian would use as a bluff in this spot?

Sorry I rewatched - you suggest he would never c/r flops with sets.

Can you expand on just why you think that is optimal for him?

If he has a spazzLAG image and he is repping a narrow range - when he has that range doesnt he just turn your whole range into bluff catchers? If he does attack dry boards constantly.

Time link doesn't seem to work... I was talking about the hand around minute 18.

What happens if the river wasn't a blank but like a 8 or a 8 ?
Do you still go for the check/call no matter what?

Or if I state the question a bit different, which card would make you check/fold the river?

We're are not as happy but it doesn't change our action. It would be pretty good for him for float the flop and raise the turn with his flop FDs some of the time, but with this dynamic and on this board it doesn't make much sense, and then there's the fact thart people at micro just don't really do that, we shouldn't be worried about s. s are more of a concern but again I expect him to just call the turn with those FDs most of the time when a raise doesn't rep anything other than air/draw/Q9. If we say that villain is kinda spazy and doesn't mind that he's not repping anything then that just makes his air range wider and allow us to call more often even on a river.