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Both players sat down a hand or 2 ago.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 78273
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is CO with J J
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG caps!, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (12.4 SB) T 9 9 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls

Turn: (9.2 BB) 6 (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

River: (11.2 BB) A (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 13.2 BB

Being a maniac, I'm happy that I didn't cap the flop or raise on the turn or river. In retrospect, I think I should have folded the turn because I was pretty sure that he had pair pre-flop. I somehow missed the only pairs I was beating was 88 or worse, which is inconsistant with his line. But I still think I'm making progress.

Cake .50/1

Hero is on the Button w AT
UTG = LAG, not great
CO = Fish

UTG raises, CO 3-bet, Hero caps (probably bottom of my range, but these guys are hemorrhaging at this point)

Flop 9J2 (yes, I run good on cake)
check, check, Hero bets, call, call

Turn J
check, check, Hero bets, UTG calls, Fish folds

River J
check, Hero...

I thought for a second before acting. What would you do?

I think I'd b/f, and not check. If he's been passive up until now, he might call with a worse hand, but he'd definitely check behind if given the chance with a weaker hand. I also think he'd have quite a bit of testicular fortitude to bluff c/r that river when you've been showing strength for the whole hand.

Same table, Fish is in SB, Hero in BB with 8T

Fish is very straight forward, 3-balling the flop with overpair+, raising turned top pair, etc. Does not donk. Does not slowplay. Will play draws more passively.

Fish open raises in SB, Hero calls
I'm expecting this to be top 15-20% of hands. He would open-limp otherwise.

Flop 894
Fish bets, Hero raises, Fish calls
I would have expected a 3-ball from an overpair.

Turn Q
Fish checks, Hero...

Thoughts on the positives and negatives of a bet/check here?

I'd bet, putting him on AK or AJ. He'd be getting 5:1, and I'd try to get hime to make the mistake of calling - no use in letting him draw to his 6 outs for free. I imagine he'd bet AQ, JT, and 88+.

One might say sir was a little passive with his set

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with A Q
CO raises, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, CO calls, BTN calls

Flop: (12 SB) 6 A J (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls, BTN calls

Turn: (7.5 BB) T (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BTN calls

River: (10.5 BB) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BTN calls

Final Pot: 13.5 BB
CO shows A 8 (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
BTN shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero shows A Q (a pair of Aces)
BTN wins 13 BB
(Rake: $0.50)

One might say sir was a little passive with his set

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with A Q
CO raises, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, CO calls, BTN calls

Flop: (12 SB) 6 A J (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls, BTN calls

Turn: (7.5 BB) T (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BTN calls

River: (10.5 BB) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BTN calls

Final Pot: 13.5 BB
CO shows A 8 (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
BTN shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero shows A Q (a pair of Aces)
BTN wins 13 BB
(Rake: $0.50)

Think he was afraid you had AA?

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Both players sat down a hand or 2 ago.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 78273
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is CO with J J
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG caps!, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (12.4 SB) T 9 9 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls

Turn: (9.2 BB) 6 (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

River: (11.2 BB) A (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 13.2 BB

This looks fine to me. It really depends on how much you respect UTG's range and if he is really straight forward post flop. I've honestly started to call down on paired boards more, letting him bet our hand or bet if checked to. If you respect his flop 3-bet, you're really not beating anything considering the board but AK that is jamming for some reason. TT/QQ+ beats you, 9x beats you. On the river you beat nothing imo.

What if we just called the flop, called the turn, and maybe folded this river? Anyone think this is winning more/losing less?

Cake .50/1

Hero is on the Button w AT
UTG = LAG, not great
CO = Fish

UTG raises, CO 3-bet, Hero caps (probably bottom of my range, but these guys are hemorrhaging at this point)

Flop 9J2 (yes, I run good on cake)
check, check, Hero bets, call, call

Turn J
check, check, Hero bets, UTG calls, Fish folds

River J
check, Hero...

I thought for a second before acting. What would you do?

I would have heard from UTG on the flop, for suuure by the turn, if he held a pair, so I bet... called his raise... and he showed me what I put him on: AQhigh, bluffing a full. When I took a second to think, he basically had to have A-high, so checking the river lets him get off easy, imo.

Hand reading ftw.

This looks fine to me. It really depends on how much you respect UTG's range and if he is really straight forward post flop. I've honestly started to call down on paired boards more, letting him bet our hand or bet if checked to. If you respect his flop 3-bet, you're really not beating anything considering the board but AK that is jamming for some reason. TT/QQ+ beats you, 9x beats you. On the river you beat nothing imo.

What if we just called the flop, called the turn, and maybe folded this river? Anyone think this is winning more/losing less?

I totally agree. On the river, I lose to any semi-reasonable hand he could have capped. Too bad I always notice after pressing the wrong button.

Too bad I always notice after pressing the wrong button.

I do this a lot! Hard to slow down and think sometimes... well, simple concept, but hard to execute!

I'm fairly sure he bluff raised me because I thought for a second before betting. Made me think about inducing thru reverse tells.

I would have heard from UTG on the flop, for suuure by the turn, if he held a pair, so I bet... called his raise... and he showed me what I put him on: AQhigh, bluffing a full. When I took a second to think, he basically had to have A-high, so checking the river lets him get off easy, imo.

Hand reading ftw.

I missed your read on UTG being a LAG but nevertheless I think this is very, very rare that this river is being bluff check raised. I can't believe you would really put him on ace high here. How many handed is this? What is his read on you you think?

Cake .50/1

Hero is on the Button w AT
UTG = LAG, not great
CO = Fish

UTG raises, CO 3-bet, Hero caps (probably bottom of my range, but these guys are hemorrhaging at this point)

Flop 9J2 (yes, I run good on cake)
check, check, Hero bets, call, call

Turn J
check, check, Hero bets, UTG calls, Fish folds

River J
check, Hero...

I thought for a second before acting. What would you do?

lol I might be a little late - but I bet/call 100% here. If you check you miss value for Ax and lower flushes. And if his a LAG he doesn't have a PP, 9x, Jx or FLUSH here - give him the opportunity to call with AK-AQ.

BTW I think a call with AK from the villain if fine played because he still beats most of your range and you would bet 100% with KQ-KT-QT here.

Same table, Fish is in SB, Hero in BB with 8T

Fish is very straight forward, 3-balling the flop with overpair+, raising turned top pair, etc. Does not donk. Does not slowplay. Will play draws more passively.

Fish open raises in SB, Hero calls
I'm expecting this to be top 15-20% of hands. He would open-limp otherwise.

Flop 894
Fish bets, Hero raises, Fish calls
I would have expected a 3-ball from an overpair.

Turn Q
Fish checks, Hero...

Thoughts on the positives and negatives of a bet/check here?

Bet - no doubt. The reasons are too many to write but here are some

You read - is true - is that you got him beaten, then why don't bet. If he check-raises he got a Q if he check-calls he got AK-AJ-AT-KJ-KT, I only fear that he could pla a K9 this way ?
If you check you simply miss value he will call down with AK-AJ-AT anyway so you can decide whether to bet or check the river depending the card and on how much you think he would fold + call that you beat + call that you loose to + check-raise.

Both players sat down a hand or 2 ago.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 78273
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is CO with J J
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG caps!, Hero calls, BB calls
...

I think folding the river is fine.

And I like the flop because people would play an AK like this and if his very aggro AT

One might say sir was a little passive with his set

BTN saved you

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Too bad I always notice after pressing the wrong button. Poke Tongue

I do this a lot! Hard to slow down and think sometimes... well, simple concept, but hard to execute!

Hands off your mous, Take a deep breath - it helps

lol I might be a little late - but I bet/call 100% here. If you check you miss value for Ax and lower flushes. And if his a LAG he doesn't have a PP, 9x, Jx or FLUSH here - give him the opportunity to call with AK-AQ.

well ok i guess i am wrong then

well ok i guess i am wrong then

Says who ?

good thing bout poker is that there is seldom 1 right answer

Says who ?

good thing bout poker is that there is seldom 1 right answer

Well in the car from work to home I was thinking this hand over again and this LAG might not even be check raise bluffing this river but may be thinking he has the best hand. But even then, it would be very villain dependent, the read he would have on hero is important and I think when you are called or get raised you or way more in bad shape than in good.

I missed your read on UTG being a LAG but nevertheless I think this is very, very rare that this river is being bluff check raised. I can't believe you would really put him on ace high here. How many handed is this? What is his read on you you think?

He would have given me action with a pair. It was capped pf and he opened UTG. So, yeah, I put him on A-high. I thought for a second, v-bet, he raised, which polarized his range to a slowplay or a bluff.

I pretty sure he was just calling down, but when I paused he decide to bluff raise.

Also, this only needs to be a bluff rarely for our call to be good.

Well in the car from work to home I was thinking this hand over again and this LAG might not even be check raise bluffing this river but may be thinking he has the best hand. But even then, it would be very villain dependent, the read he would have on hero is important and I think when you are called or get raised you or way more in bad shape than in good.

Speirs what you think of this ?

"If his a LAG he doesn't have a PP, 9x, Jx or FLUSH here - give him the opportunity to call with AK-AQ.

BTW I think a call with AK from the villain if fine played because he still beats most of your range and you would bet 100% with KQ-KT-QT here."

Thing is that if he had a BB he should fear the FD and bet/raise for protection/value vs Hero's range. Even with a set 9x9x vs. Hero's range I think he should - not that he would raise the flop.

I just call.

Me too.

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