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This Week: Bart is joined by revered "tiltless" coach Tommy Angelo. They discuss how Tommy got started in poker, poker coaching, and his focus on the effects of tilt. Tommy diagnoses some common tilt issues brought up in emails from listeners and offers some recipes for success from his book, 'Elements of Poker'.

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Rob

great show.. I could listen to tommy for much longer than an hour

If this was 12 parts long instead of 2, I don't think that anyone would complain.

so pumped for the Tommy series!

This was so good... Can't wait for part two ^.^

About to listen to this, but can I give a wooba wooba now?

Tommy is awesome. This was a great podcast.

Is there anyway we can know the guests before they come on so we can send our questions? If there is already something like this I apologize but I think more people would email if they knew who was coming up.

Tommy is awesome. This was a great podcast.

Is there anyway we can know the guests before they come on so we can send our questions? If there is already something like this I apologize but I think more people would email if they knew who was coming up.

Great idea, we will aim for this in upcoming podcasts, keep your eye on this forum.

-JT

Great job Tommy and Bart. I really liked this episode.

Superb episode guys!

I remember emailing Bart about having Tommy on back when he was still doing Cash Plays, it's been a long wait, but it was worth it.

Looking forward to the episode next week, has it already been recorded, or is there still time to send in more questions?

Superb episode guys!

Thanks!

Looking forward to the episode next week, has it already been recorded, or is there still time to send in more questions?

It's already recorded.

Oh man, slightly dissappointed that I won't get a chance to get a question answered by the great Tommy Angelo on the podcast, but at the same time, I had the great Tommy Angelo quote and answer one of my forum posts. I feel like I have been elevated to a higher state of mind.

Ok, enough fanboy stuff, although, if one is to be a fanboy, what can be better than being a Tommy Angelo fanboy.

Could it be an idea to have a monthly Tommy Angelo segment on the podcast? I think Tommy is quite unique among the coaches/instructors on this site when it comes to what he talks about. A monthly/bi-monthly segment of 15 minutes or something like that where he could answer a few questions or possibly just talk about a different subject each time would be awesome.

Ya or if DC makes more podcasts maybe a weekly Tommy Angelo podcast show where he can talk about whatever!

I really wish I'd sent this in on time for it to be considered for the show. It's a question for Tommy Angelo should he still be about and it has to do with tilt.

This comes from years of watching folks at live tables. When I watch someone go off their rocker following a hard beat or whatever, I always get a mixed Darwinian/Freudian sense of the goings on. Tommy discusses a lot how people slip away from the present tense and psychologically slip away from their body into their mentition, i.e. their future and their past.

I have had a different take that I would love Tommy to respond to. To humans, money is like food, it is life-sustaining on a certain level. When someone takes it away from you at the table, especially against the odds, I've noticed the following. It is as though the "victim's" mental process regresses from the new/modern parts of his brain to the more primitive brain segments. I see a variant of "fight vs flight" in the face of a vital threat.

The problem is that we have that dang glue sticking our ass to the seat, so being deprived of flight we are forced into fight mode. Within the rules and culture of the poker table, I see the person start to fight for his life from his throbbing mid-brain, manifesting as irrational aggression and ultimately what we call tilt. The person becomes exclusively focused on one opponent, his mortal enemy. In a fit to destroy his opponent by sticking a knife in his liver, the result becomes (financially) self-defeating because, like it or not, we are still respecting the rules and culture of the table.

Has anyone ever conceived of tilt in this fashion?

I have a separate question for Mr. Angelo. He stated toward the end of the podcast that internet poker is so different from live poker that direct comparison of the participants is meaningless. If he'd stopped there I would be in full agreement.

But he followed up by saying that internet golf has more in common with internet poker that live poker does with internet poker. As I pondered this, my agreement became fuzzy. Internet games like golf, snowboarding, skiing - your opponent is an interwoven series of software algorithms. In on-line poker, your opponents are other people encapsulated within a software interface and brought together by the Internet.

Doesn't that render the comparison between on-line and live poker more valid?