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The Thin Red Line: Episode Eight

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The Thin Red Line: Episode Eight by Grindcore

Grindcore reviews various hands from his whole career which he found interesting in some form.

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DeucesCracked welcomes fan favorite and new instructor Grindcore to the fold with this original video series about that thin, red line – nonshowdown winnings. This winter Bart will take a look at some common misconceptions about the red line and discuss the ins and outs of how small stakes 6max players can pick up previously unreachable profit.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 56 minutes long
  • Posted about 3 years ago

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Djingo

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Yeah he never raises 7x on the flop and keeps betting 67/sets/straights on the turn, so I'd bet to fold out a 6. $140 is probably enough though, don't have to openshove.

As played, his shove is really strange. He doesn't raise 7x on the flop and doesn't check a valuehand on the turn. He'd also expect you to lead the river if you had 7x or a straight/set/overpair/whatever probably, so when you check he thinks you have a bluffcatcher. The jam then very often is a bluff, but what hands can he be bluffing with? All his semibluffs improved on the turn except JT. Most people don't bluffraise A high on the flop but just call instead, so KJ likely beats his bluffs, but the problem is that there are so few bluffing combos in his range. I guess he could also have raised random overs w hearts on the flop and then checked the turn fearing a CRAI... Very close. I'd rather call AK or 9x here than KJ though, just in case he is bluffing with the best hand (like 6x to bluff you off 9x or overpair). Wether you should call KJ here or not also depends on your image/history with villain. But leading river is far superior to anything here.



Thank you for the answer. I knew you were the right guy for a question like that Smile

Posted about 3 years ago

buddy_reno

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How are you able to get such good reads on you opponents?

Posted about 3 years ago

Grindcore

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How are you able to get such good reads on you opponents?



By paying attention and actively thinking about what the things I pick up on mean. It's all out there, right in front of your eyes. You just have to see it.

Keep in mind though that these hands are a selection from my entire career, and not a sessions standard.

Posted about 3 years ago

Djingo

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By paying attention and actively thinking about what the things I pick up on mean. It's all out there, right in front of your eyes. You just have to see it.

Keep in mind though that these hands are a selection from my entire career, and not a sessions standard.



I actually think one of the biggest obstacles for many players is to trust their reads in a way which enables them to make these "sick" plays like you do. It takes a lot of confidence.

Posted about 3 years ago

Adebisi38

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Time Link to 00:36:33

Ok all your thinking process makes a lot of sense and I know you are making a lot of money at these stakes but still... I couldn't be happy with Q high there. Don't you think vilain has TP type hands, FDs in his range ?
I assume the fish thinking process is either " ok I have nothing I'm gonna bluff cheap " or " ok I like my hand, let's put some money in the pot " ?

Posted about 3 years ago

Adebisi38

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Keep in mind though that these hands are a selection from my entire career, and not a sessions standard.



ok that explains a lot then. =)

Posted about 3 years ago

Grindcore

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Ok all your thinking process makes a lot of sense and I know you are making a lot of money at these stakes but still... I couldn't be happy with Q high there. Don't you think vilain has TP type hands, FDs in his range ?
I assume the fish thinking process is either " ok I have nothing I'm gonna bluff cheap " or " ok I like my hand, let's put some money in the pot " ?



He doesn't do this with top pair. I give all my reads at the start of the hand. He doesn't minraise the flop if he has something, so when he minraises I know he has no pair and no A high (which is top pair on the river). The only hand beating me is 5x that bluffed the flop and is now betting small because his pair is small or so, but I'm getting insane pot-odds so even if he plays 5x like this 100% of the time it's still a call.

Posted about 3 years ago

Prologion

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I actually think one of the biggest obstacles for many players is to trust their reads in a way which enables them to make these "sick" plays like you do. It takes a lot of confidence.




this!

Depending on my present state of mind, I also of course fight with this topic.

Posted about 3 years ago

Kesky

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Excellent video.

I have a question about something you said about the things that happened before you decided to limp AA UTG.

You said that you have overbet bluffed the river against a fish three times in a row because the situations were good for it. This blows my mind a bit.
I do overbet bluff fish occasionally, but I am very hesitant to do it twice in a row, let alone three times because I feel like they would rather burn money than not see my cards.

Would you mins expanding a bit about these spots? They don't have to be the exact three spots, of course . any kind of general respons about the subject will do.

Also, make more vids soon, please.

Posted about 3 years ago

Grindcore

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Excellent video.

I have a question about something you said about the things that happened before you decided to limp AA UTG.

You said that you have overbet bluffed the river against a fish three times in a row because the situations were good for it. This blows my mind a bit.
I do overbet bluff fish occasionally, but I am very hesitant to do it twice in a row, let alone three times because I feel like they would rather burn money than not see my cards.

Would you mins expanding a bit about these spots? They don't have to be the exact three spots, of course . any kind of general respons about the subject will do.

Also, make more vids soon, please.



Example spot for good overbet bluff: you have a read that villain bets turn when checked to after calling a cbet if he has top pair or air. He only checks 2nd or 3rd pair type hands. When you cbet Axx he calls and checks back turn, you can overbet river.

Posted about 3 years ago

Adrenalin

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6/5 stars!

thank u for this great season, i've never seen something more impressiv than this episode. i look forward to see ur videos again.

Posted about 3 years ago

Kgore

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I'd love your thoughts on this hand.

It was rush poker and I don't have many reads on the guy besides he's fishy..

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 773587
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BB: $17.65
UTG: $65.70
Hero (MP): $58.40
CO: $67.20
BTN: $60.00
SB: $93.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with Q Club K Heart
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) T Heart 9 Spade 6 Diamond (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.75) A Club (2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, BTN calls $6

River: ($20.75) 5 Spade (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $15.50, Hero calls $15.50

Posted almost 3 years ago

Grindcore

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You block some of the combos you're beating. He could also have 66 99 TT A6 A9 AT A5 AJ AQ AK etc. No way you're priced in to call there. Especially readless you can't make these calls. You need to be able to for example discount the 2 pair + hands from his range on the flop/turn because you know he raises those, and then know he won't be able to do this with A2o and/or have a betsize tell. If you had the best hand you just got super lucky.

Posted almost 3 years ago

Kgore

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You block some of the combos you're beating. He could also have 66 99 TT A6 A9 AT A5 AJ AQ AK etc. No way you're priced in to call there. Especially readless you can't make these calls. You need to be able to for example discount the 2 pair + hands from his range on the flop/turn because you know he raises those, and then know he won't be able to do this with A2o and/or have a betsize tell. If you had the best hand you just got super lucky.



Ty. I didn't have the best hand but I sure as hell didn't expect his hand... 88.

Posted almost 3 years ago

Poemmel

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What the heck is he doing on that river?
I mean what does he expect you to fold?

Posted almost 3 years ago




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