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pr1nnyraiding S2: Episode Six

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pr1nnyraiding S2: Episode Six by KRANTZ, WiltOnTilt

KRANTZ and WiltOnTilt continue the analysis of KRANTZ's play against a tricky player on 2 tables of $2/4 deep. KRANTZ wraps up the episode with a helpful flow chart illustrating the flow of the game and adaptations.

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KRANTZ and WiltOnTilt are back as we do some more Pr1nnyraiding. This season we move up to the midstakes of HU NLHE and take on a whole new identity of aggression and dominance.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 62 minutes long
  • Posted over 4 years ago

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jazzyjess

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what is the software that krantz is using and is it any good

Posted over 4 years ago

bosoxx34

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Hey guys, at 46:00 with K9, he had sort of toned down his aggression at this point. What are we doing if we get 3 bet?

Posted over 4 years ago

nair

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That game flow chart is bangin. Pretty obvious Krantz is taking DC to the next level with this series.

I don't think of myself as having a DC subscription any more---I've got a prinnyraiding subscription.

gg fellas

Posted over 4 years ago

Mendez

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@36 mins, the hand where you 3bet KJo and cbet a 467ss flop (you have no draw) and you bet the K turn which puts the flush out.

1.What's the plan if raised on this turn?

2. On the river, you mention that it would be a good play for villain to turn his 7x into a bluff and shove. Does this mean that you're betcalling the river? Or are we bet folding river until we know he is capable of such a move?

3. Are we betting this river with our air?

Posted over 4 years ago

Jsturm

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K_Man42

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@27 mins, after flatting 54ss pre we flop 764ss and you discuss the hand as though we check/called flop and were looking for a check/raise on both the Js turn and 10c river which seems completely standard, although in reality you led the flop before checking the turn which is obviously far less standard.

Can you discuss why you would take a lead flop with flush draw/check turn when flush hits line v this guy? Are you planning on check raising the turn or check calling, check raising river? Just seems like a really interesting hand that you assumed was pretty straight forward, and also affects the discussion about his reasoning for not betting turn/river.

Thanks.

Posted over 4 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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@36 mins, the hand where you 3bet KJo and cbet a 467ss flop (you have no draw) and you bet the K turn which puts the flush out.

1.What's the plan if raised on this turn?

2. On the river, you mention that it would be a good play for villain to turn his 7x into a bluff and shove. Does this mean that you're betcalling the river? Or are we bet folding river until we know he is capable of such a move?

3. Are we betting this river with our air?



1. fold

2. if we think he's an excellent player, yes we can consider bet/calling. vs most people at these stakes(and most people in general) bet/folding is fine.

3. yes definitely

Posted over 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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@27 mins, after flatting 54ss pre we flop 764ss and you discuss the hand as though we check/called flop and were looking for a check/raise on both the Js turn and 10c river which seems completely standard, although in reality you led the flop before checking the turn which is obviously far less standard.

Can you discuss why you would take a lead flop with flush draw/check turn when flush hits line v this guy? Are you planning on check raising the turn or check calling, check raising river? Just seems like a really interesting hand that you assumed was pretty straight forward, and also affects the discussion about his reasoning for not betting turn/river.

Thanks.



I was intending on c/r-ing the turn. The main reason we lead the flop is because coordinated boards like that are boards in which people who raise tons of buttons will be checking back very very frequently to control the pot and get to showdown.

Posted over 4 years ago

ThatDeviant

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Fantastic video guys.

Learnt a ton about making adjustments as the gameflow changes.

Posted over 4 years ago

simonpoker

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K_Man42

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I was intending on c/r-ing the turn. The main reason we lead the flop is because coordinated boards like that are boards in which people who raise tons of buttons will be checking back very very frequently to control the pot and get to showdown.



Absolutely I agree leading that flop is very good, particularly as you had just begun to inject leading into your general strategy with air as well. I think the fact that you don't barrel the turn after leading the flop is what is quite interesting though. What do you perceive his range is for flatting the flop then betting the turn, and being likely to continue to a c/r either with a light turn peel, pure float or bluff 3 bet? I say bluff 3 bet as I would assume he is very likely to raise a 764ss flop to a lead with any super strong made hands and the Js turn can really only improve a J7/J6/J5/J4 (conceivably JJ too) hand or a completed flush draw in which case we'll be putting as much money as we can in anyhow.

The main question being why do you think there is more value in c/r the turn rather than bet/betting? As despite his propensity for value betting the river light it seems like his range on the turn is weighted towards being more likely to check back rather than turn a pair/gutshot/flush draw hand into a 2 street bluff. It also protects our air leading range when if we lead this flop w/ say KT one spade we're decently likely to fire both the turn and most blank rivers. That being said I think it would be a pretty cool line to take with air, but for precisely the reason that his value range for betting the turn and continuing to a c/r seems insanely narrow.

Cheers.

Posted over 4 years ago

bones

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At 42:15ish on the right, you fold the A9 on the river without much comment. Seems like he was check raising at a high enough frequency that he'd be cr his flush draws and the queens that he didn't 3 bet preflop. What kind of range do you have him betting the river with?

Posted over 4 years ago

Ulkis

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Did I hear Borat in the background ;-) ?

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binbs

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@ 24 mins, Qh8h on 9h8s7h, you donk-call, and argue vehemently that is would be a bad idea to 3bet the flop oop, as many would be prone to do.

I don't agree with this. First of all, I foresee a bunch of difficult turn situations: you're afraid of half the deck, as so many cards potentially beat your hand (in this case, when villain holds AJo, it's T's, J's and A's that aren't hearts) with the main problem being that you don't know which they are - anything above a 4 that doesn't improve your hand, really.

Moreover, if you'd like to get it in on the flop with any made hands, and you presumably would with all two pair or better (?), why not add super draws like this one to your range? Granted, your opponent is happy to get it in himself when he holds strong made hands), but he'll certainly also get it in with hands you're ahead of some of the time (mainly all flushdraws, typically either higher than yours or including a gutshot).

So by getting it in on the flop, you avoid all the tough turn decisions where you'll often make huge errors, PLUS you punish the decent amount of semibluff raising he does with hands such as exactly AJo, with the bonus effect of more metagame prowess from your side.

I believe your implied odds aren't much greater than your opponent's, if at all - power of position and all.

I agree that it's a question of stacksizes! I just think that 200 BBs deep, 3betting the flop is a great line for you that you should be very happy to presented the opportuneity to do. 400 BBs deep is another question..

Posted over 4 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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generally speaking, playing a hand a certain way because it makes it "easier to play" is not going to be optimal. it's kind of the classic 2+2 logic of "omg big draw all in because then i can't make a mistake!" is pretty flawed (esp deep) because if you can make better decisions than your opponents or you have a good enough image you can manage to get the money in with massive equity as opposed to coinflipping.

Posted over 4 years ago




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