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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by WiltOnTilt (Mid Stakes)

YAY

OMAGADSE.

OMAGADSE.

I LOLd.

Hell yeah!

Hielko always comes through with some great Whackem's. This guy is going to go robusto for sure.

A French WoT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61hzLYfRYyc&feature=related

Great vid Wilt. Really liked all the input on dealing with all the excessive 3betting that's going on.

About the excessive 3betting talk I have a question, I don't play these levels, but from the video it looked like the majority of the reg where in their comfort zone in 3bet pots so I am wondering whether there is some merit to cold call more in position to take them out from their known territory and play pots where the stack/pot size ratio leaves more room for more creative plays. This obviously requires greater hand reading than the average player, but I guess this should be something that someone who is trying to beat 2/4 has to handle already pretty well.

2nd great video in the series!

Hielko, you mentioned that you started at 25nl early last year (IIRC), which I think is a pretty good and solid result (and a great inspiration for us struggling players...) - it would be great to get your brief analysis on

- how long at each level
- biggest struggle at each level and how did you solve it
- at each level, what did you do well compared to your peers to move up

thanks!

About the excessive 3betting talk I have a question, I don't play these levels, but from the video it looked like the majority of the reg where in their comfort zone in 3bet pots so I am wondering whether there is some merit to cold call more in position to take them out from their known territory and play pots where the stack/pot size ratio leaves more room for more creative plays. This obviously requires greater hand reading than the average player, but I guess this should be something that someone who is trying to beat 2/4 has to handle already pretty well.

I think this is certainly good with a lot of hands, and this is also what i do with a lot of hands. I don't know what hands exactly you see me 3betting in position in this video, but usually a lot of my in position 3betting range consists of hands that aren't good enough to cold call in position (so i can do exactly that with the hands that are good enough).

2nd great video in the series!

Hielko, you mentioned that you started at 25nl early last year (IIRC), which I think is a pretty good and solid result (and a great inspiration for us struggling players...) - it would be great to get your brief analysis on

- how long at each level
- biggest struggle at each level and how did you solve it
- at each level, what did you do well compared to your peers to move up

thanks!

I'll try to answer your question .

25NL: I've have played just 18K hands of 25NL before moving up, and my winrate in that sample was just 3bb/100. The reason that I moved up is that I thought that I could easily beat those games, and I used to play up to 10/20 limit so my bankroll wasn't really an issue.

50NL: I played a little more than 100K hands of 50NL, and right from the start I was crushing this level using a nitty 19/16 style. My winrate was around 13bb/100 while 8 tabling. It's hard to say what specific things I did better than my opponents, but I do think that most players at this level are afraid to get thin value. You see a lot of people taking pot control lines while I would never worry about that and just bet/bet/bet.

100NL: The first level that gave me some troubles. I was still playing 8 tables at the same time when I tried to move up to 100NL and altough I did beat the game, I was a very marginal winner at first. I think this a lot of this was caused by fps and trying to outplay people everytime I got 3bet from the blinds. Calling every 3bet in position and then floating or bluff minraising flops isn't smart. It's going to work a decent amount of the time, but not often enough if you don't pick your spots well. When I reduced the number of tables from 8 to 4, starting to think harder about my decisions I finally managed to beat this limit at a solid rate. Lifetime my winrate is probably just 5bb/100 over 160K hands.

200NL: After I started beating 100NL at a solid rate I moved up to 200NL pretty quick (I was already easily rolled) and I guess I just started to beat this level from day one. I continued to play 4 tables mostly (sometimes 6) and I also started to really table select instead of just joining some random tables. Played 160K hands lifetime at this level with a winrate of 10bb/100.

400NL: We will have to see how this goes... certainly the biggest jump skillwise so far. You see a lot of regs the tables that are playing 600NL/1KNL, and you obviously also see the better 200NL regs.

I was really interested in your descussion about having an OOP calling range to 3bets. I have often felt like i should fold my TT or JJ when faced with a 3bet from a player in possition since i don't have a real calling range, so my hand would be face up.
I tryed a cold call with KJo and check-raised flop today, rather than a 4bet, and it netted me a lot of money vs someone who was obviously very light.

Don't suppose you could outline a range that would be ok to call OOP vs someone with say 7-10% 3bet assuming we would check-raise a lot, or does it just depend on how your opponent plays in 3bet pots?

This is a great series. My one suggestion would be for Hielko to argue less with his coaches and ask more questions if he is unsure about what they are saying. It is a bit frustrating to have him talking over them so much. Looking forward to the next videos!

Great series.

How many hands did you play per month at the beginning? (NL 25 to NL 100 inclusive)

Also, I was wondering if you could give me a link to the autorebuy mod you are using for PS.

This is a great series. My one suggestion would be for Hielko to argue less with his coaches and ask more questions if he is unsure about what they are saying. It is a bit frustrating to have him talking over them so much. Looking forward to the next videos!

^^ that got kind of annoying to me as well. If there is a concept I don't quite agree with at first I will definitely present my case as to why I feel it is right but it seemed like every suggestion WoT made Hielko would disagree with. The conversation about 1 hour in about squeezing with KK was painful to listen to. WoT made several good points, in my opinion, as to why he should make the raise size smaller but Hielko seemed stubborn about his own point of view.