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Unconventional Wisdom: Episode Two

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Unconventional Wisdom: Episode Two by DJ Sensei, fslexcduck

Early street betting. Use betting information to narrow your opponents' hand ranges and play better on the later streets. Sensei and Vanessa teach you to use informational bets to overcome positional disadvantage and develop strategies for leading out in heads-up and multiway pots efficiently.

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Join DJ Sensei and Vanessa Selbst as they think outside the box. Hand after hand of unorthodox, tricky and engaging play for the small stakes No-Limit player. Bid goodbye to ABC poker but be careful not to spew!

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 56 minutes long
  • Posted over 5 years ago

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fslexcduck

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The first hand (T7s) you talked about how easy a fold would be if villian pushed turn. But we would be getting 1:2. Unless he is a nit, he could definitily be doing that with a hand such as 22,Ad3d,9d8d,ATo (just to ilustrate, since I think he is going to have draws more than sets/TPGK hands). That way, we would get about 33% equity that we need to call.

What do u think?



yeah, i think that's a good point, and I agree with you. I thought the same thing when watching the video. We talked a bit about it after making the series... sometimes when we're recording the audio we say things we either don't mean completely or haven't thought out in full, and I'm inclined to think this is one of those times. I actually think it's a call, and a call you should be happy to make when he shoves, because sometimes he has 34 or a slowplayed set and then we at least have a redraw, but a good chunk of the time he has a combo draw that our T is beating anyway (and the LAGgier we are playing, the more of a call this is, of course). Very solid point.

Posted over 5 years ago

Smaptastic

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Got a hand where I pulled a line right out of this video (along with some of the general concepts of the 1st video). Would love to see how well you guys think it translates.

http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/17-Mid-Stakes-NLHE/topics/1351-AK-in-fun-3bet-pot-

Posted over 5 years ago

ninjapoker

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Regarding the JJ hand.

What would you do if preflop raiser lead $22. (I guess it would be either call or fold). If u call, what's your plan?

Posted over 5 years ago

rine

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This series is awesome. Keep it up.

Posted over 5 years ago

vanHelsing

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Great series, actually this was the main reason for me insta signing up for the site.

And Vanessa, it's so refreshing to have a female voice on a Poker Video Smile , keep it up!

Posted over 5 years ago

dzejkej

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Time for new episode today .. Weeeeeeee

Posted over 5 years ago

craigthedeac

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At ~16:20 Vanessa is showing an ATdd hand. In the chatbox it shows that her previous hand she won a $421 pot with a pair of 2's. Could I see this hand please? haha

Posted over 5 years ago

DJ Sensei

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Regarding the JJ hand.

What would you do if preflop raiser lead $22. (I guess it would be either call or fold). If u call, what's your plan?



It would presumably be a call, hoping that the shortstack moved in. If the PFR then shoves, we can fold, if he just calls, well, we might fold for the same reasons as we did in the actual hand. If he folds, obviously we call.

Supposing that the shorty folds and the reraiser fires another barrel on the turn, we can probably fold unless he's overaggro. If he checks, we probably will bet and fold to a checkraise (although checking back and deciding to either call or fold facing a river bet is also an option)

Posted over 5 years ago

DMoogle

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I think this episode was much more applicable to small stakes than it was mid stakes and up. Particularly for the stop and go concept, I think you're turning marginal hands into pure bluffs more often than not with it.

Posted over 5 years ago

DJ Sensei

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I think this episode was much more applicable to small stakes than it was mid stakes and up. Particularly for the stop and go concept, I think you're turning marginal hands into pure bluffs more often than not with it.



Actually, when I first started using the move it was at higher stakes games, and I was doing it with sets and other huge hands to try and induce them to make a big move at me, or at least play a bigger pot than they wanted to (since I think most good players would read it as a weak made hand "finding out where its at"). It didn't actually work as well as planned though, most people even at higher stakes just folded most of the time, so I started using it as a bluff sometimes, with success.

I think you're generally right with regards to smaller stakes guys though, since they don't as often have the refined hand-reading skills or the wherewithal to make big, well-targeted moves (thus negating the effectiveness of our play).

Posted over 5 years ago

atakdog

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On the last hand, Vanessa says she calls the river bet because she "likes to call bets." Is the lesson here that she shouldn't have called, or that the call was correct but she can't or doesn't want to explain why? More explanation would be (and would have been) appreciated, on this hand and in general.

Posted over 5 years ago

Rizzo23601

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Wow, I really need to bump this thread and hopefully somebody will answer Smile

REGARDING THE JJ HAND

I was shocked when Vanessa actually folded given the way the hand played out. It maybe a leak, but I would shove this all day, because isnt a huge part of the small blind's range a draw?? The board is super draw heavy and the guy has just minraised before the flop. Normally this screams KK or AA, but on that patricular board, wouldnt he want to protect his hand by going allin? Even with a set, I dont think he would just call.

Is my thinking completely offtrack here?

Posted over 5 years ago

DJ Sensei

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Wow, I really need to bump this thread and hopefully somebody will answer Smile

REGARDING THE JJ HAND

I was shocked when Vanessa actually folded given the way the hand played out. It maybe a leak, but I would shove this all day, because isnt a huge part of the small blind's range a draw?? The board is super draw heavy and the guy has just minraised before the flop. Normally this screams KK or AA, but on that patricular board, wouldnt he want to protect his hand by going allin? Even with a set, I dont think he would just call.

Is my thinking completely offtrack here?



I think what you're overlooking here is that the SB min-reraised preflop. Such a play is generally not made with "drawing hands", its made with big pairs and big aces (unless the reraiser is particularly loose-aggressive and not very good, but I think this guy was for the most part tight). So the only drawing hands that he could really have are things like AKss, AQss, which are no worse than a coinflip against us. Otherwise, he's crushing us. And a big part of the leading bet Vanessa made with the JJ was precisely to find out where the reraiser stood without committing too many chips.

Regarding why the SB just calling the flop raise rather than 3-betting it doesn't necessarily mean weakness, the pot is getting so big by that point that he doesn't really have to protect his hand quite as much against draws, plus since we coldcalled preflop its less likely that we have a drawing hand ourselves anyhow.

Posted over 5 years ago

Manchild

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First let me say that overall I think these videos are solid, and I like how its not just watching you guys play live, so the hands are more focused on certain topics and there is less downtime.

About 42 minutes into this video, DJ Sensei has KcQc UTG+1 and calls an UTG raise, which is standard.
Then his analysis seems to get contradictory. On the flop of Js7sTc, the PFR leads into 3 other players and he says that the PFR likely has a very strong hand, which makes sense. The thing is that he then says 'chances are if I get there I can get paid off pretty well'. (I'm not advocating a fold here) but my reaction to that comment is that if we hit an Ace, and he has KK,QQ,KJ kinda hands, hes not going to want to play a big pot. In addition to this if a 9 hits, there will be a 4 straight on the board, so we may not get paid if that hits either. In fact, on the turn (8c) DJ Sensei comments that there are a fair # of hands that we can have that could have a 9 in them. So it seems like on the flop he was saying that if a 9 comes we can get paid, but then on the turn when an 8 comes he will slow down. IMO there are close to as many hands that we could have that had an 8 in them as there are hands with a 9 in them, so if a 9 were to turn, its unlikely that we would have gotten paid here.
So in summary, I'm not disagreeing with the idea that calling the flop is fine, but I don't really agree with some of the reasoning and analysis, mainly regarding our implied odds.

If DJ Sensei, or fslexduck could comment on this hand further it would be appreciated.

Posted over 5 years ago

stoney2285

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With the ATs hand multiway where the BB donks, my default is to normally call there but I see your point about raising. I have two questions in regards to this. The first is, why raise so small if we are fairly confident alot of villain's range is a draw? I understand we dont want to make a huge raise because we are basically raise/folding, but making it only $13 more gives the original bettor some really good odds. The second question was would you be raise/folding in that same spot if you had tptk or tpgk? I didnt see any stats on this guy but I always give a tag credit when they donk multiway in that spot, so I end up just calling with my weaker overpairs as well as my top pair hands.

Posted over 5 years ago




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