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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by inavacuum (Micro/Small Stakes)

I have just watched this vid and was very impressed how the format was laid out and the content, i think inavacuum did a great job in setting out and presentation i am a big fan of this type of video, also it was great to watch SnappieVouz be put in some tough spots 5 stars for this and please make some more.

Jacob

vs a typical "pot odds" TAG, what bet size would you use on the river in the A9 hand?

$24.

Time Link to 00:31:19

the QThh hand. If you had AK or KQ are you playing flop and turn the same and shoving river?
I would be surprised to see villain call down with a worse hand considering we were UTG cbet 3way on draw heavy flop and barrel a bad 'barrel' card then shove river when flush card hits. The reason I assume you would play it this way is you comment about villain maybe putting us on a weak K like KT, implying you shove the river w better K's.

Time Link to 00:42:05

My question is if were happy shipping over his cold 4bet range, it seems we would have been delighted back raise 4betting over his squeeze range. KQs would actually be at the top of our range unless villain thinks we were flatting as a trap because we know how often he squeezes. I think if we flat, he squeezes, button folds and we small 4bet, his range for getting it would be quite wide because he might think we are standing up to his aggression w small PP's or another relatively weak hand, or just 4bet bluffing. I am kinda leaning towards flatting this hand and back-raising if BB squeezes, but maybe im not looking at the whole scope of this hand.

the QThh hand. If you had AK or KQ are you playing flop and turn the same and shoving river?
I would be surprised to see villain call down with a worse hand considering we were UTG cbet 3way on draw heavy flop and barrel a bad 'barrel' card then shove river when flush card hits. The reason I assume you would play it this way is you comment about villain maybe putting us on a weak K like KT, implying you shove the river w better K's.

Given what we know about this villain I'd be happy to c/c most Kx on the river, the strength of our Kx becomes less important when his range is so skewed towards bluffs.

My question is if were happy shipping over his cold 4bet range, it seems we would have been delighted back raise 4betting over his squeeze range. KQs would actually be at the top of our range unless villain thinks we were flatting as a trap because we know how often he squeezes. I think if we flat, he squeezes, button folds and we small 4bet, his range for getting it would be quite wide because he might think we are standing up to his aggression w small PP's or another relatively weak hand, or just 4bet bluffing. I am kinda leaning towards flatting this hand and back-raising if BB squeezes, but maybe im not looking at the whole scope of this hand.

The issue I have is that I think his range for stacking off is lighter when we call and backraise than when we 3bet and shove but I don't actually think his squeezing range and his cold 4betting range in this particular spot vary too much. I don't mind taking the backraise line, it's a line I'd often take with a 99-AA, AQ type hand, though I probably shove rather than small 4bet - as I do expect to get looked up fairly light. Here's an example of a hand played that way vs a villain I view as similar to the villain in the hand in question. The reason I slightly prefer the backraise here is that 99 does somewhat better vs what I percieve his range to be than a hand like KQ and I also expect in this particular instance for the BTN to call any squeeze but not be able to call a shove when he does this, leaving more money in the pot.

Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Bolle Berto (CO): $186.05
NiceCallPre (BTN): $100.00
Hero (SB): $100.00
Fishfood4U (BB): $98.50
Daquinpe (UTG): $276.45
HyperAggrDonk (MP): $101.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 9 9
2 folds, Bolle Berto raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, Fishfood4U raises to $14, Bolle Berto calls $10.50, Hero raises to $100, Fishfood4U calls $84.50 all in, 1 fold

Flop: ($211.00) T J 3

Turn: ($211.00) 7

River: ($211.00) K

Final Pot: $211.00
Hero shows 9 9
Fishfood4U shows 6 6
Hero wins $208.00
(Rake: $3.00)

Time Link to 00:07:33

I have a couple of questions about how this is played.
1> How do we proceed if he flats our reraise?
2> Would you say that flatting Villains raise is stronger than reraising him again. i.e. using your logic that he is never raising here with a QX or 22 then why would we?
3>If we know he is going to stab at this pot what do you think about check raising the flop?

Also which deity is the preferred deity of choice in order to flop quads? Sure Thor has a hammer but Jesus was a carpenter so im sure he knows a few counter hammer manouvers

I have a couple of questions about how this is played.
1> How do we proceed if he flats our reraise?
2> Would you say that flatting Villains raise is stronger than reraising him again. i.e. using your logic that he is never raising here with a QX or 22 then why would we?
3>If we know he is going to stab at this pot what do you think about check raising the flop?

Also which deity is the preferred deity of choice in order to flop quads? Sure Thor has a hammer but Jesus was a carpenter so im sure he knows a few counter hammer manouvers

1. Shut down because I don't believe he'd fold anything often enough.

2. A couple of points on this. A) flatting is dangerous because our hand is so vulnerable. His raising range is almost exclusively air and almost all of that air will be dangerous for our hand. B) the fact that our line makes little sense almost as much as his doesn't matter because he can't do anything about it. He won't reraise us again with air, which is close to 100% of his range. He has the "raise dry flops lol easy money" move in his arsenal but when it doesn't work there is no Plan B. This is not true for everyone, as we saw with the 99 hand, some people WILL ninja reraise us when we rep air (which is a good reason not to do it vs them), but not this guy - he's too limited.

3. CRing will likely produce the same results, but is perhaps a little less credible (which probably doesn't matter at all). If in monetary terms it's roughly the same I'd rather not give him the option to check back with hands that do well equity-wise vs us.

You do know Thor also has a chariot pulled by GOATS, right?

This video kinda sucked.





I mean, everyone knows that Greek mythology pwns Norse. Hopefully Ep 2 won't make the same mistake and I'll be able to focus on the poker.

sorry, if I remember correctly I believe Tim did talk about Thor in the second episode,
i suggest you don't watch it or become open minded about all mythology out there

Watched this video yesterday morning.

Then yesterday afternoon I flopped Quads on a TTQ board and decided to go with an unconventional line and raise the flop. It allowed me to still get 3 streets of value against KK but had I raised the turn instead, villain might have just given it up on the turn.

So Thank You Yin and Yang for some different thought processes that I would not normally have thought of.

Would be nice if you showed a few hands where you lost as well as all of the ones where you won though.

Time Link to 00:16:38

KJ hand:
Against 77- and a 3 we should check-call. If he has Ace high we should bet(unless he will hero call too much Ace highs). Does 77- and a 3 really out weigh the number of Ace high combos he can have here, or is it the opposite? Also, how often does he check a gut shot on turn? Thanks, Yojimgari

Time Link to 00:42:14

KQ hand:
KQs has less equity to call an all-in than 99 does, after we back 4bet small. But do our blockers make up for this? What about back 4betting all-in? Thanks, Yojimgari

Time Link to 00:51:43

A9 hand:
I like a 70%(maybe 65%?) pot bet on the river. He won't fold a flush or a straight. We are trying to get him to fold a set, two pair, over pair, and top pair. Those hands may crying call a smaller bet. Shouldn't we bet 65%-70% pot? Thanks, Yojimgari

Time Link to 00:56:59

T7 hand:
I wonder about floating the turn again? Sometimes he will triple barrel, which lowers the value of floating. Although we lose more money to a straight/set if we raise-fold the turn, instead of calling and folding the river. On the other hand, once we raise and villain calls, we can think that he will generally be folding the river, so maybe raising the turn to shove all(or nearly all?) rivers is best?

Great video! Please continue with the hand history format. Please do some 25nl 6max rush videos. Thanks, Yojimgari

KJ hand:
Against 77- and a 3 we should check-call. If he has Ace high we should bet(unless he will hero call too much Ace highs). Does 77- and a 3 really out weigh the number of Ace high combos he can have here, or is it the opposite? Also, how often does he check a gut shot on turn?

He's betting far more than just A high and counterfeit pairs, so yes the combos are in our favour, especially when he won't bet all of his Ax combos. I have no idea how often he checks a gutshot on the turn and in all likelihood neither does he.

KQ hand:
KQs has less equity to call an all-in than 99 does, after we back 4bet small. But do our blockers make up for this? What about back 4betting all-in?

I've dealt with this extensively, if you read through the past replies you should find the answer you're looking for.

A9 hand:
I like a 70%(maybe 65%?) pot bet on the river. He won't fold a flush or a straight. We are trying to get him to fold a set, two pair, over pair, and top pair. Those hands may crying call a smaller bet. Shouldn't we bet 65%-70% pot?

I think you're missing the point about our reads on the villain and villain coming to the conclusion that we are never bluffing ever. If this is the case, which it is, it's far more +EV for us to make this tiny bluff that doesn't have to work as often as a larger bet, but it will always work given the conditions we've outlined. Vs a different opponent I would have bet bigger.

T7 hand:
I wonder about floating the turn again? Sometimes he will triple barrel, which lowers the value of floating. Although we lose more money to a straight/set if we raise-fold the turn, instead of calling and folding the river. On the other hand, once we raise and villain calls, we can think that he will generally be folding the river, so maybe raising the turn to shove all(or nearly all?) rivers is best?

I would agree that raising the turn to shove almost all rivers is best. Which is why we did that.

Time Link to 00:08:36

Question about the 44 hand.

Recap: Hero raises to 44 in sb, bb calls. Hero c-bets on QQ2 and BB raises to 6. Hero reraises to 14.

Inavacuum, you say that villain isn't repping anything credible when he raises us on that board. But isn't is also the case that we are not really repping anything when we reraise him on that board. So this move becomes a game of chicken where both players know that opponent often doesn't have anything here but you're basically asking him if he's got the balls to come over the top of you again.

Which seems fine here as you mention that villain is a tight TAG. But what do you do in this spot against different player types? Would you do this against a player who was fairly loose/aggro? Are there any kinds of players who you just fold to the reraise here?

Inavacuum, you say that villain isn't repping anything credible when he raises us on that board. But isn't is also the case that we are not really repping anything when we reraise him on that board. So this move becomes a game of chicken where both players know that opponent often doesn't have anything here but you're basically asking him if he's got the balls to come over the top of you again.

Correct.

what do you do in this spot against different player types? Would you do this against a player who was fairly loose/aggro? Are there any kinds of players who you just fold to the reraise here?

I wouldn't rebluff someone I thought was going to play back (assuming we have 44 still) or who I thought was capable of raising for value to induce a bluff from me. Those player types, especially the latter, require a little more finesse. As for folding to the raise, the most obvious candidate for this would be the loose passive low AF category of fish.

i love the video, thanks fellas

Correct.



I wouldn't rebluff someone I thought was going to play back (assuming we have 44 still) or who I thought was capable of raising for value to induce a bluff from me. Those player types, especially the latter, require a little more finesse. As for folding to the raise, the most obvious candidate for this would be the loose passive low AF category of fish.

Thanks for the reply Inavacuum. I've a couple of more questions about the 44 hand and they're kind of related to the 99 hand where you play the nuts similarly to induce a bluff from a laggy thinking player.

For the 44 hand (Recap: Hero raises 44 in sb, bb calls. Hero c-bets 2 on QQ2 and BB raises to 6. Hero reraises to 14):
1) What do we do do if villain clicks it back to us here? In the 99 hand where we had the nuts, we clicked it back to induce a shove because we look bluffy. In the 44 hand, If villain clicks it back here after we reraise, is he still repping nothing, and if so do we shove?
2) How do we approach this hand if we have a hand with a bit more value/less vulnerable. We c-bet and BB raises to 6. What would we do in this spot with hands like AQ, 99, KK. Does our approach change for each of these hands? If we are raising vs this opponent as a bluff because we think he always has air, do we call with stronger hands and hope he will bluff again at a later street?

Also, I'll echo what other people have said. I really enjoyed this video and found the format really good.

1) What do we do do if villain clicks it back to us here? In the 99 hand where we had the nuts, we clicked it back to induce a shove because we look bluffy. In the 44 hand, If villain clicks it back here after we reraise, is he still repping nothing, and if so do we shove?
2) How do we approach this hand if we have a hand with a bit more value/less vulnerable. We c-bet and BB raises to 6. What would we do in this spot with hands like AQ, 99, KK. Does our approach change for each of these hands? If we are raising vs this opponent as a bluff because we think he always has air, do we call with stronger hands and hope he will bluff again at a later street?

We don't believe villain is capable of reraising us a bluff, so we fold, even to a clickback. If we have a stronger hand, it depends how strong. I'd be quite likely to call with most of the hands you mention since they are not nearly as vulnerable to his bluffing range as 44 is. Again, this is for that villain in particular.

In the A9 hand at 42:30...

Recap: Hero has Ac9s in the BB. SB opens, BB calls. Flop: 2h5c6c. Villain bets 2. Hero calls. Turn is 3h. Villain bets 4 into 7. Hero raises to 12. Villain calls. River is Kc.

In the video (around 49:00) you say that villain is the type of player where if we shove on the river here he could conclude that our range is either flush or we were bluffing the turn.

But do we really play a flush draw like this. I could see us raising a heart draw on the turn when we turn extra equity with hands like heart overcards or heart straight draws.

But with a club flush draw, which is the one that got there on the river, are we calling the flop, and then raising the turn? If he's only going to put us on flush or bluff there, is a bluff much more likely?

In the QT hand at ~25:40...

Recap: Hero is UTG w QhTh. Hero raises, MP and BTN call. Flop is 9h8cKh. Hero bets 4.5, MP folds, BTN calls. Turn is 9c. Hero bets 11, BTN calls. River is 4h. Hero checks, villain shoves, Hero calls. Villain shows TdTs.

In the video (around 29:50) you ask what does our hand look like to villain? And put our perceived range as air, hands like QT(clubs?), QJ, JT, even weak K hands that we won't shove the river with because they won't get called by worse. And you say that villain is good enough to know that.

You also say that you don't see anything bad about his play. Can you explain this a bit more? Given that he shows up with TT here I don't see how his river shove to turn his hand into a bluff is good.

If he puts us on the range mentioned above... TT has good showdown value - he beats our missed draws, which we will fold to the shove anyway. Also, when we check the river there with a lot of our Kx range, where we know a 3rd barrel can't get called by worse, aren't we checking to catch bluffs rather than to check-fold. So he can expect us to fold our bricked draws, check-call our stronger Kx hands and maybe fold some of our weaker Kx hands.

In the A9 hand at 42:30...

Recap: Hero has Ac9s in the BB. SB opens, BB calls. Flop: 2h5c6c. Villain bets 2. Hero calls. Turn is 3h. Villain bets 4 into 7. Hero raises to 12. Villain calls. River is Kc.

In the video (around 49:00) you say that villain is the type of player where if we shove on the river here he could conclude that our range is either flush or we were bluffing the turn.

But do we really play a flush draw like this. I could see us raising a heart draw on the turn when we turn extra equity with hands like heart overcards or heart straight draws.

But with a club flush draw, which is the one that got there on the river, are we calling the flop, and then raising the turn? If he's only going to put us on flush or bluff there, is a bluff much more likely?

I view villain as a good player, surprisingly good actually. This is why I think the river bluff size will work. It's also why I think he can put a flush in my range if I did shove the river and raise the turn rather than flop. Obviously this doesn't make a whole lot of sense if villain is HUDBot #501,602,301.

If he puts us on the range mentioned above... TT has good showdown value - he beats our missed draws, which we will fold to the shove anyway. Also, when we check the river there with a lot of our Kx range, where we know a 3rd barrel can't get called by worse, aren't we checking to catch bluffs rather than to check-fold. So he can expect us to fold our bricked draws, check-call our stronger Kx hands and maybe fold some of our weaker Kx hands.

I think he rightly expects me to be able to fold all my Kx because he knows that I know against a standard range (which he is not in possession of) it's not going to be profitable as all Kx play much the same against the river shoving range of BTN. He doesn't know that I think he's floating so often (or I wouldn't have played the hand the way I did) and if that's the case his play becomes pretty good if he can expect me to fold everything he beats as well as all my Kx, of which I have less combos when I don't bet the river - leaving me with more of the ones that are more likely to fold (even though I've said I view most Kx as the same vs his shoving range villain probably knows people will still fold KJ more than AK in my spot).