Gman
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In the QJ hand vs Always Calling, do you think there is merit to a Rapotoresque tiny/head explosion bet on the river (~$2-$3) to get calls from all of his worse hands that got to the river (I think that a pot sized bet vs this player archetype is usually bad on this river)? If the river comes a K, I assume you would be full potting the river for value correct.
For sure, I agree that making a small bet has merit here and may be the best play against a weak player like this.
If the river comes a king, yes I would make a more standard value bet, because at that point we can expect him to call w/ worse a higher percentage of the time, including Ax.
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Gman
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Wow, just wow. Having seen the video, I've gotta say you guys blew my mind. This was one of the best poker videos I've ever watched, and to think that there's gonna be more makes me really excited! You're a truly excellent teacher; the way you presented and explained the concepts was flawless.
I really have just one question, concerning the 99 hand that Gman took us through. When we saw the river, my inclination was to check back because the only worse hand I could see us getting called by was an 8. Gman reasoned that we could get called by a 5 or even Ace high, but wouldn't even small stakes fish mostly fold those hands to a third bet? Should we really go for three streets of value with 2nd pair vs. this type of player?
I would argue that against a stronger player, checking back is best without a specific timing tell or gameflow consideration to indicate otherwise as there is a better chance he is likely to fold a hand weaker than ours to a third barrel. But at 50NL, players are so suspicious that I think you do get called by worse more than 1/2 the time, although admittedly I purposely made our hand 99 so that the decision was extremely close. Also note that on the turn he waited awhile before checking, which led us to believe that his range was weighted toward hands that really didn't want us to bet the turn, making 8x and 5x significantly more likely than Jx.
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And yeah, marigoLd is correct in that there is some dilution of ranges because sometimes he'll check AT on the flop and sometimes he'll bet it, but for simplicity it's much easier to present this way and doesn't really affect the intended value of the model I think. 
I know my comment will be somewhat irrelevant to this particular discussion, but I think it might be worth noting that sometimes you do need to "retrofit" hands into player's range based on the later action. Meaning that you can't always be stuck on what you think your opponent's preflop range is if the action suddenly suggests something completely different.
I know that wasn't the intention with AT example he gave, but anyhow.
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clowntable
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Poker Schema - what...wat?
"Your poker schema is how you think poker works" +
"All of your rational poker thinking is dependant on your poker schema" =>
All of your rational poker thinking is dependant on how you think poker works
ORLY
p.s.: Are you a philosophy or sociology major?
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For one, it's quite evident that you spent a lot of time on this and believe me when I say it didnt go unnoticed and that it was very fruitfull indeed.
Second, I'm very much looking forward to this series because it seems that your goal is to teach the 'why's' of everything instead of only the actions themselves.
Don't just give me the fish that you've caught from your ship of knowledge, help me build one too so that I may learn to fish myself. Tonto 13:169
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dudes!
this is the far best educational video i have ever seen, i love dc videos but this series roxx. you have great understanding how to communicate with people, and you have great educational skills as well. btw, have u ever learnt something like teaching?
anyways keep on making those episodes!
DogIsHead and Gman 4 prez!
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