Joe Tall
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Squeezer is well known PLO player. I'm in the 7-game mix here, funny is when I called preflop (should I isolate or fold?), my first thought was, Tom is going to squeeze the button here. (Tom = LearnedFromTV)
4-better is this laggish-reg.
Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
tuudey (UTG): $489.00
kachal126 (MP): $425.00
Hero (CO): $485.00
LearnedfromTV (BTN): $670.00
Berry Johnston (SB): $468.00
House of Zorn (BB): $1395.50
Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is CO with Q
9
J
7 
1 fold, kachal126 raises to $12, Hero calls $12, LearnedfromTV raises to $57, 1 fold, House of Zorn raises to $198, 2 folds, LearnedfromTV calls $141
Flop: ($423.00) 7
8
3
(2 players)
House of Zorn bets $423, LearnedfromTV raises to $472 all in, House of Zorn calls $49
Turn: ($1367.00) J
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($1367.00) 4
(2 players - 1 is all in)
What does each player have? How did I do? (prob a big bag of fail, imo.)
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PokerGnome
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In my humble opinion i don't like your call in the CO. To many gaps in your cards and if you know there are squeezers and lags who are gonna make your life hard on the flop then just dump it pre.
Although something inside me tells me if you want to play the hand then you should raise.
Im thinking the laggy reg has to have something half decent here, he has to commit to what ever hand he has when he raises.
4 bettor has an overpair with maybe the A
, Learned from TV has the flush draw
But then again that pot is my whole bankroll so WTF do i know
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n0whereman
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calling or 3-betting is fine pre (kachal MRing makes me think he's a fish so I'm happy to isolate) - folding is weak imo. i'm ok folding to the cold 4-bet, but if your 7 is a T you're clicking call until you can't put any more money in. postflop, HOZ almost certainly has AAxx, and Tom has a hand that plays well (enough) against AAxx on that board. pair + fd, pair + wrap, 2pr, set, etc.
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DJ Sensei
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Guys behind make the difference here imo. Its better to 3bet here if they are aggro. Better to call if they aren't (especially if they're fish!). If guys behind are aggro AND you consider the PFR to be much better than you, you can fold pre.
As played, your fold to the 4bet is correct UNLESS both opponents are nits (especially learnedfromtv since he was the 3bettor) and have AA** as a significantly large part of their range. In that case you should coldcall, since your equity 3ways is excellent and you can play perfectly on the flop. 5betting in those conditions isn't a terrible idea but is higher-variance and unlikely to benefit you any further.
Houseofzorn has AA**, sometimes good KK**, sometimes good broadway rundowns. Mostly AA**. Learnedfromtv most likely has a good rundown that connected with any piece of the flop (pair+kickers, any FD or OESD), but could have a hand like KKQJds that flopped a FD. Hard to read much further than that into their hand ranges imo.
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lonely_squirrel
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I agree with Dj Sensei. If you expect it to get raised behind you then you can fold this preflop. If not, it seems close between a raise and a fold.
House of Zorn often has AA here, sometimes KK, but he could also have something like JT9. Against an opponent 3 betting wide, 4 betting preflop without AA is totally reasonable.
LearnedfromTV never shows up with AA here. He should have something like
- 1pair plus a heart draw
- T9 plus a heart draw (especially if it's the Ah),
- the rainbow 9TJ wrap is also probably a call this shallow.
Learned doesn't need the nfd to continue, because Zorn will 4 bet and shove this flop with naked AA. However he usually has a heart draw here, or is ahead of AA, because if he doesn't those times that he's up against AA + nfd will totally overwhelm his equity.
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Joe Tall
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Somebody tell me what LFTV is trying to accomplish here?
Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 572489
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
tuudey (UTG): $489.00
kachal126 (MP): $425.00
Hero (CO): $485.00
LearnedfromTV (BTN): $670.00
Berry Johnston (SB): $468.00
House of Zorn (BB): $1395.50
Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is CO with Q
9
J
7 
1 fold, kachal126 raises to $12, Hero calls $12, LearnedfromTV raises to $57, 1 fold, House of Zorn raises to $198, 2 folds, LearnedfromTV calls $141
Flop: ($423.00) 7
8
3
(2 players)
House of Zorn bets $423, LearnedfromTV raises to $472 all in, House of Zorn calls $49
Turn: ($1367.00) J
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($1367.00) 4
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $1367.00
LearnedfromTV shows 3
K
4
5
(two pair, Fours and Threes)
House of Zorn shows A
2
A
2
(a pair of Aces)
LearnedfromTV wins $1364.00
(Rake: $3.00)
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delcrossb
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LFTV's play is pretty standard. He 3bets in position with the hopes of isolating since his hand is going to flop any real nut draws. He assumes that House of Zorn's 4 betting range is far too ace heavy (which it probably is) and since he can see a flop heads up he calls. Once he flops a pair he knows he has the equity to go with his hand except for the times that House of Zorn has the NFD, but given how little is behind and how much money got in preflop he can't care too much. This is really just a spot where LFTV knows he is being laid the right price to continue and so he has to call with his bottom pair+live kickers+GS.
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