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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:39:40

Is it really correct to fold (84)9 and call (74)9? Surely The playability with a 7 is much higher but I ran a simulation on pokertools and If you give me a range of (9- 9-)7 (two unpaired holecards 9 or lower, which is a really tight range and I think in reality my range is much wider) (84)9 has 46.21% and (74)9 has 47.41% Equity so they are relativ close...

Time Link to 00:40:21

I think this fold is really tight. If I have a range of (8- 8-)46 (which again is on the tighter site of my range estimation) you still have a little bit more than 40% Equity getting 5 to 1..

Time Link to 00:45:46

Funny ;-) Half a Second after saing "Hate the Turn", raising it anyway.

Time Link to 00:46:18

An other quesionable play in LHE. What do you want to accomblish by c/r bottom pair in that spot?

I will fold all my bluffs that are nearly drawing dead against you, which whom i might bluff again on the turn. I will 3bet you with my stronger hands - and draws like QJ are hands you are not that far ahead. So you only get value of weaker 9s and sometimes from smaller pocket pairs / K hi's.

On the River I considered valuebetting my pair of Ts since I thought it is very likely that I have the best hand (or chop with other Ts) but decided against it, since I (mistakenly) thought the mostly likely hands that can pay me off (pair of 9s) are not in your F c/r range.

Time Link to 00:00:14

I am not really sure if this is a great card for you. Although the 2 counterfits my naked A2xx hands, they are only a small part of my range, since I would 3bet alot of A2xx hands preflop. On the other hand I could have a lot of made lo hands with flush and straight draws that are freerolling against your hand. In fact you did read my hand as a baby flush on the river, so if you put me on that hand why raise the T?

The link should go to the hand @00:09:14

Hey, I am Joes opponent in the video and I will try to give some insights from my point of view.

First of all, as you have mentioned in the comments, I had an information advantage in the video, over you as I knew much more about how you play than the other way around.

My main game is HU LHE and I think I have an edge over you here, since you made same questionable plays. (Which others have already pointed out already in the comments)

It should be clear that you have the edge in the Stud games, but it probably is not nearly as big as you thought while playing against me in the video.

Overall I guess I played tight in the non holdem games and almost a little bit timid, where I have chosen the save/ passiv line (not putting in more action, instead just calling down.) It turns out, that I have given you too much credit in several spots for a stronger range than you actually had.

During the video I was under the impression that you would have an more accurate glimpse of my ranges in certain spots, but this was obviously very naive thinking from me. Since I was a total unknown for you I guess you underestimated my play in some spots and I overestimated your plays in some spots (Giving you more credit as I thought you see me as a somehow thinking player, but you didnt adapt the way I thought you would – at least at the beginning of the video)

All in all I ran good in this video and you probably didint play your A game (recording and commenting in real time, familial distractions ;-), and so on.)

Well, I made a lot of comments to some of the hands in the video, and I hope it is not too overwhelming, but on the other hand thats what the comment function is for.
So I hope I did contribute something to the discussion.

Thank for so much for joining us! Great meeting you at the tables!

Is it really correct to fold (84)9 and call (74)9? Surely The playability with a 7 is much higher but I ran a simulation on pokertools and If you give me a range of (9- 9-)7 (two unpaired holecards 9 or lower, which is a really tight range and I think in reality my range is much wider) (84)9 has 46.21% and (74)9 has 47.41% Equity so they are relativ close...

Is it really correct to fold (84)9 and call (74)9? Surely The playability with a 7 is much higher but I ran a simulation on pokertools and If you give me a range of (9- 9-)7 (two unpaired holecards 9 or lower, which is a really tight range and I think in reality my range is much wider) (84)9 has 46.21% and (74)9 has 47.41% Equity so they are relativ close...

FWIW - In this session I felt you were playing the Razz round extremely tight. I would play 849 vs nearly anyone or an unknown.

Just to let you know in PPT you need to have all 3 cards within the (xxx) to analyze them as unpaired. So, (9-9-)7 allows pairing the 7 in the hole card range.

Hand Pot equity
(9-9-7) 60.18%
849 39.82%

Hand Pot equity
(9-9-7) 57.64%
749 42.36%

Giving you a random card (K thru A)
Hand Pot equity
(9-*7) 51.75%
849 48.25%

Hand Pot equity
(9-*7) 49.58%
749 50.42%


Hand Pot equity
(T-T-7) 56.14%
849 43.86%

Hand Pot equity
(T-T-7) 53.71%
749 46.29%

I am not really sure if this is a great card for you. Although the 2 counterfits my naked A2xx hands, they are only a small part of my range, since I would 3bet alot of A2xx hands preflop. On the other hand I could have a lot of made lo hands with flush and straight draws that are freerolling against your hand. In fact you did read my hand as a baby flush on the river, so if you put me on that hand why raise the T?

For a few minutes I was looking for a T on the board, (T = ten) then I realized you meant TURN, ha.

board: Qs8s6c2d

Vs any-A2 (includes flushes and straight draws, plus all bricks, includes a 3 for nut-low as well)
QdQc7hTh 56.92%
A2** 43.08%

Here is my WORST possible situation to be in:

two cards 8 or less suited in spades, with two random cards (which would include A3, obv)
QdQc7hTh 44.16%
LsLs** 55.84%

Here is something a bit more typical, but still has to be middle-top range.

vs low-suited non-low suited, non-low, low (aka 3sKsTc4d)
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo
QdQc7hTh 55.63% 211,799 453,831 2,704 0 0
LsNsNL 44.37% 143,465 143,465 2,704 334,612 0

There are times you flop sets, etc, so I am getting the best of it (barely) with a raise.

The 8 was actually a bad card for me as I was rolled up from the beginning. It was probably a mistake do not slowplay this hand...

You played it fine, you'd get a ton of action from me if I spike, the cards just did not fall in your favor to get action. (btw, other players might still peel in my spot)

Really a strange Razz hand, and I probably made a mistake in not betting 5th or 6th street, but your board seemed so strong and it makes no sense to check except from having to bricks in the hole, but you would not raise (brick,brick)A vs a 6 on 3rd. So I was concerned of a c/r.

My hand was (85)6925(A) and I thought I can make a valuebet with my 96 to get paid off by a worse nine. I didnt expect to get a better hand to fold.

You have a 8652A. But it doesnt matter as the pot is so small since bet on the end lays me 3:1, and most of your range is mathematically good on the river.

I had a hi only hand and you would have been good for the lo.

My plan was to c/r T when a save non lo cards hit but you foilt my plan. Probably should have c/r F.

Still a fold in the river, its close w/the pot being so small and cry-calling for half, I hate it. Not knowing what you had but you should definitely play it faster on the flop.

I had AA and wasnt considering folding, but raising. I choosed the save line in calling down and raising when I make two pair. On the River I made Aces up and made a valuebet.

You should bet 6th, no one ever checks 2-pair or better there vs your board. (too scared to give you free cards as you are coordinated)

Do you really expect me to fold a pair of 4s when all the Straight and Flush draws bricked off.. ^^
Definitly check behind River and maybe check behind T/ call River unimproved / raise River when improved.

I hated my bet as soon as I bet it, I talked myself to checking and clicked anyway, lol.

Is this really a fold? I guess its reasonable to fold (72)5 vs. an A as in a previous hand. But isnt folding 753 against a J in S8 a bit too tight? Since my range is much wider than a pair of jacks, you can catch some very good cards (4s and 6s) and if your board develops well, I am hard pressed to continue if I dont have a pair of Jacks (and sometimes even if I have the pair). And if you brick you can just fold 4th. So the hand should be easy to play and should not have reverse implied odds.
Is there something I dont consider in such situations?

You are right.

But I'm really surprised to hear you say, "much wider than a pair of Jacks" since you were playing sooooooo tight, I figured Jacks was near the middle to bottom of your range!

Here is about the loosest range I can give you:
*d*d, J*, 88-AA|Jd 54.77%
3s5d7h 45.23%

You absolutely must fold here. The pot was check through on teh turn and is small. No scoop and not the greatest shot even for 1/2.

What % chance do you estimate that he has a very weirdly played 24 or 62? It's not like it's a huge pot, so that definitely favors folding, but you're getting 3:1, so you need your low to be good about 40% of the time to be +EV, which I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

Rob