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Kwilk90

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Hey Folks.
This might be a bit too much theoretically. But I have to do this Grin
I am currently working on my knowledge of the math of poker. And i am really asking myself the following question:

How far should you go with your exploitative play if you find a leak in your opponents game?

There a few factors to consider:
-if your opponent never adjusts: exploit the hell out of him
-if your opponent is adjusting: is there any mathematical way to find out the optimal exploitative adjustment? i think we need to know the exact point where our opponent starts to adjust and how far he is adjusting and then we could cumulate our optimal exploitative percentage? or am i wrong here?

So here is the next question coming up:

how the hell do you handle this problem?

-are you slowly increasing the exploitativity and stop if you see any adjustments?
-or do you exploit the max and adjust to his adjustments(slow down or exploit the exact other way round)?
-or do you just make it randomly?
-or is there a secret formula or way to do it?

I think this is really interesting to discuss. Maybe we will all learn something..
Waiting to read any answers Smile

Posted over 1 year ago

blah234

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You should exploit the hell out of them until they adjust PROPERLY. Don't give people credit for coming up with the right adjustments until they actually do then we adjust again.

For example, you 3 bet the hell out of someone so they stop folding as much. If their adjustment is to call 3 bets with a wide range then c/f the flop when they miss then they're even more exploitable.

Posted over 1 year ago

Kwilk90

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Okay sounds good Smile Because adjusting properly is really difficult.

But when you say "you 3bet the hell out of someone", do you have specific exploiting ranges for specific spots? Because i cannot imagine 3betting every hand. And how do you put these ranges together?

That said - When someone "overadjusts" then you do not just back off to "optimal" play but you exploit doing the exact opposite? Should be most +ev. So in theory after a long time both players you and your opponent alternate to the optimal play. But in practice noone will ever adjust good enough for this process and so you exploit it in a really direct manner?

Posted over 1 year ago

Ass Get to Jigglin

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-are you slowly increasing the exploitativity and stop if you see any adjustments?
-or do you exploit the max and adjust to his adjustments(slow down or exploit the exact other way round)?



Sometimes you will want your exploitations to be subtle so that your opponent doesn't notice. Other times you are fine with them noticing because you expect them to over adjust and create for themselves an even more exploitable tendency.

Posted over 1 year ago

Kwilk90

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subtle vs better players and otherwise very exploitative if they are tilty or there game is so out of balance that you can expect they do not know how to adjust right?

Posted over 1 year ago




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