Alex,
Thanks for the write up on running bad. I look forward to the episode you talk more about it and I look forward to Aaron's take on it too.
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Alex,
Thanks for the write up on running bad. I look forward to the episode you talk more about it and I look forward to Aaron's take on it too.
Great vid guys.
Alex, I think I've read that old post of yours from 2+2 about five times over the past year or so I've been playing seriously. I feel every time I hit a bad run or somehow leave some elements of my game away from the table, I've stumbled upon it and it has (along with other sources) offered me the direction to work on my game away from the table, recoup, retool and ultimately move up in stakes..
A question - the loose donkey on our left on the left table, if his fold to cbet % had been lower, how would you have been adjusting your opening ranges and cbetting / two barrelling frequencies to compensate especially OOP..
A question - the loose donkey on our left on the left table, if his fold to cbet % had been lower, how would you have been adjusting your opening ranges and cbetting / two barrelling frequencies to compensate especially OOP..
I think that you need to be doing the reverse of them. I would be tightening up my range a bit, and value betting second pair etc. If you can’t shift people off any flop, there is no need to get into marginal situations with him. I prefer to wait for a hand and just value town them. So I would say that it is a game of patience. Looking at the VPIP, Fold to C-bet and WTSD as a combo, is a good indicator for your plan for the flop. I think you are spewing money by trying to take it away from them if they are never folding.
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Hahaha I so recognize this one.
Dunno if it has been asked previously, but is there a file config for the HUD setup.
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Hey guys. I'm a fairly new member and I want to say that I'm so glad I joined DC.just watching this series was well worth it.Episode 2 was another great learning experience, as were the questions and discussion about various hands by both WiltOntTilt and WhiteHeatSYD brilliant stuff keep up the good work. and thanks ![]()
Alex - thanks for your downswing essay. I think it describes almost exactly my experience too, and your do's and don'ts are fantastic.
Great series, guys
Greetings from Sunny South Africa
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Hahaha I so recognize this one.
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Great video guys!
Just watched it and have a question for WoT...
One hour in Alex picks up AKo in the SB and it gets raised UTG by 995994. Alex elects to 3-bet and 995994 calls. After 995 calls the cbet on the A4T rainbow board, I'm not sure I agree with checking the turn, especially due to Alex's remaining stack size and the board texture. 995's flop action seems to indicate either a very strong hand (ie. set of 4s, AT, but more likely AQ, AJ, A9, 55-99, KQ, QJ). This range is deduced in combination from his pf action with his flop action, of course. Therefore, especially when the 8d comes on the turn bringing the flush draw, I feel there are a lot of combination draws AdQd, KdQd, QdJd, 9dJd, and just generally Ax hands, as mentioned, which will probably call a pot-sized bet on the turn but still be behind our AK. Plus, if Alex checks, there is a still a small chance that 995 will push AI on the turn, and then are we really comfortable snap calling with only TPTK for the rest of our stack? (Maybe I'm forgetting how loose 995 was in this video?)
As the hand played out I feel that to some degree Alex was lucky to get the river call from second pair (QJ), though I guess you guys had some specific reads on this opponent. However, given 995's flush draw and double-gut shot on the turn (with QdJd), my guess is he would most probably be calling Alex's AI bet on the turn, so why not make the bet then, avoiding a possibly difficult river decision? I feel this might be superior to checking the turn and shoving (any?) river, but I'd love to hear your comments on this line of thinking. It could be that I am 2-barrelling my TPTK hands too much and missing value when I could check one street and induce a bluff. Not sure.
I am new to this nl thing being mostly a stt and lhe player, but I am now wanting to add nl to my games as well. I can't for the life of me figure out why we would call w AJ at 43 min. Someone posted that we can get an overcall from the fish. Do we want to be in a multiway pot w AJ? During the vid WOT said that we can jam some flops if it is checked to us? What flops would those be? How often would someone 3bet pf and then check flop? We did have some data on the 3bettor so is that the reason? He is a dc member or 2+2er so he can be 3 betting light oop here? I know part of NL is not playing your cards but I can't figure out how to continue if we do call. Have a plan and I don't have one! Do we jam an A or J here? I wouldn't feel comfortable with a one pair hand here too much. I would be calling pf and folding a huge range of flops. I hope this post isn't too late as I am catching up on vids, and because I really like this series. But I am lost here.
I am new to this nl thing being mostly a stt and lhe player, but I am now wanting to add nl to my games as well. I can't for the life of me figure out why we would call w AJ at 43 min. Someone posted that we can get an overcall from the fish. Do we want to be in a multiway pot w AJ? During the vid WOT said that we can jam some flops if it is checked to us? What flops would those be? How often would someone 3bet pf and then check flop? We did have some data on the 3bettor so is that the reason? He is a dc member or 2+2er so he can be 3 betting light oop here? I know part of NL is not playing your cards but I can't figure out how to continue if we do call. Have a plan and I don't have one! Do we jam an A or J here? I wouldn't feel comfortable with a one pair hand here too much. I would be calling pf and folding a huge range of flops. I hope this post isn't too late as I am catching up on vids, and because I really like this series. But I am lost here.
Is this a hand we are going to make a play with exclusively? ie if the board comes really dry we raise his cbet?
Hi CJ, I just re-watched the video and re-listened to my explanation and I think I pretty much said about all I know how to say on the issue, but I'll try to rehash the main points.
1. we said in the video that the squeezer is a good DC member who alex is familiar with and who can have a very wide range here.
2. we don't mind playing a multiway pot with a hand that can easily dominate the overcall (who was a fish)
3. we figure to get an honest flop action from the squeezer if it's 3 ways to the flop. in other words, drc is a good player, he's not going to blindly fire all board textures into 2 opponents on lots of flops.
4. if the pot is heads up, we can ship over his cbet a lot because a) he'll be cbetting more vs just 1 player and b) his range pf is really wide and c) with AJ we'll likely have either the best hand or 2 overcards to the board a fair amount or we'll be able to get him off some better hands (for instance he squeezes AK, flops all low, cbets and we ship and he folds). We're planning to play aggressively on a wide range of flops here if the hand is heads up to the flop. 1 high card dry boards, or 3 cards T and below, etc. plus sometimes we'll actually hit a pair and have the best hand (sometimes the worst hand). That's when we get to play poker and try to make the best decisions we can based on board texture and bet sizes.
I hope that helps.
WoT
Sorry for bumping such an old video, but i have a question for a hand in this vid. ![]()
At 48:20 at the table on the right, how do you like betting the turn and shoving the river instead of just giving up? I mean, since since he lead 2$ in ~8$ into 2 people on a semi-drawy flop i think we can cap his range a bit? I don't think he ever has a strong 8. His strongest hand is probably something like J8, and his most likely hands are weak 8's, 4's, 55-77 and flushdraws. So i was thinking if we bet ~10$ on the turn that would leave us with a $41,8 shove into $45,9 on the river.
Thoughts?
Sorry for bumping such an old video, but i have a question for a hand in this vid.
At 48:20 at the table on the right, how do you like betting the turn and shoving the river instead of just giving up? I mean, since since he lead 2$ in ~8$ into 2 people on a semi-drawy flop i think we can cap his range a bit? I don't think he ever has a strong 8. His strongest hand is probably something like J8, and his most likely hands are weak 8's, 4's, 55-77 and flushdraws. So i was thinking if we bet ~10$ on the turn that would leave us with a $41,8 shove into $45,9 on the river.
Thoughts?
Yes, you are definitely correct. I think my focus during this time was too much on the left table and I missed that opportunity to bet turn and river to get him off close to 100% of his range there. Good catch and I'm glad you're thinking about this stuff. Looking for each spot to exploit like this will help you greatly improve your theoretical winrate and help you move up in stakes that much quicker.
Excellent point.
Great Video Guys looking forward to finishing the series. Also I love the in dept analysis you do for every hand it gets me to look at poker in different ways.
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vs microstakes donks alot of them check their flush draws.... is this just a read on standard tags?
vs microstakes donks alot of them check their flush draws.... is this just a read on standard tags?
its more just a commentary on how people read hands as a standard. If they know we're a tag/thinking player, they shouldn't give us credit for having a flush very often. If they don't know anything about us, then they have to go by what the "average" player at these stakes do. Does the average player check behind their flush draws?
Hello, great video!
Just whonder one thing. How do I set up the stats like you guys have it? I know hos to import stats like you showed in the first session but I dont know how to set them up lke you have on the video. An answer would be so great! ![]()
Hello, great video!![]()
Just whonder one thing. How do I set up the stats like you guys have it? I know hos to import stats like you showed in the first session but I dont know how to set them up lke you have on the video. An answer would be so great!
Hi, check out this vid by DJ Sensei, it explains how to set up the HUD:
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/26-Tool_Time/260-Using_the_Holdem_Manager_HUD
Also here's the HEM forum where people share their HUDs, so u could just download one if you didnt want to set it up manually.
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/share-your-hud-configurations/
Good luck!
WoT
Hi, check out this vid by DJ Sensei, it explains how to set up the HUD:
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/26-Tool_Time/260-Using_the_Holdem_Manager_HUD
Also here's the HEM forum where people share their HUDs, so u could just download one if you didnt want to set it up manually.
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/share-your-hud-configurations/
Good luck!
WoT
Thanks! ![]()
Great video. Just started watching this episode ![]()
Great Series!!!
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I might be jumping way ahead here as i still have several videos to watch in the series, but after commenting on what a maniac the guy on you left is on table 1 does position and table selection come into mind at all, and what are your general thoughts of table selection at the micro/small stakes?
I might be jumping way ahead here as i still have several videos to watch in the series, but after commenting on what a maniac the guy on you left is on table 1 does position and table selection come into mind at all, and what are your general thoughts of table selection at the micro/small stakes?
i think you should get the best position and table select as much as possible regardless of what stakes you're playing. the only exception is making obvious seat changes to gain position on the fish (where it's not unlikely that he will know what you are doing, feel threatened, leave the game etc). Another exception is keeping tables open to scalp the table when another reg is sitting at a table alone trying to start a game, then a fish sits in, then you sit on their left. That's a douchebag move that happens to me all the time at high stakes, but it's part of the deal. That shouldn't effect you for a while though.
Other than that, table select to the max regardless of the stakes without being a prick/douche about it.
If you are having trouble with someone on your left, you have a few choices:
a) tighten up your opening standards and loosen your standards to play back/call down
b) don't tighten up, play back more, try to level him more or frustrate him into making more mistakes (ie, fight fire with fire) so you can gain more experience/skill
c) move tables or seats if you don't want to mess with it.
I think all are valid options and I have done all of them at various points in my career or on various days where I'm feeling either very good/confident or bad/crummy and just want to grind without thinking too hard.
WoT
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I notice WhiteHeatSYD has been hitting the muck button.
I have auto muck on as I want to show as little of my hole cards as possible. Is there a reason not to and maybe show some hands ?
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