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From the Ground Up: Episode Two

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From the Ground Up: Episode Two by tubasteve, n0whereman

Tubasteve and n0whereman pick right back up, discussing the basics of preflop play in NLHE and the foundations of betsizing.

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Primer to online shorthanded No Limit play from n0whereman and tubasteve. Everything you need to know to get started playing and winning in aggressive games. Learn your NL ABCs from our top small stakes No Limit Holdem' instructors.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 64 minutes long
  • Posted almost 5 years ago

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n0whereman

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for the purposes of our basic strategy, never. again this is kinda designed for rank beginners that don't need to be 3-betting stuff like 33 OOP b/c it will cause them to lose tons of money. but to answer your question i usually just use "fold to 3-bet" and if I haven't been too active and the guys number is above 60 I'll go for it occasionally. i much prefer 3-betting light as a squeeze than in HU pots though. Smile



yeah i'd agree with all of this. we're trying to keep people out of situations where they can make huge postflop mistakes - oop with 33 in a 3-bet pot seems like one to me - so we'd advise to just pitch them every time. As Steve said, once you open up, they're good hands to 3-bet against people who fold to a lot of 3-bets, or people who call 3-bets and fold the flop a lot.

Posted almost 5 years ago

xerocat

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1) Are you adjusting the size of your 3bets based on stack size? Say you have KK and a 50BB stack from UTG raises, are you going with the standard 3bet size or adjusting it a bit up or down? How does this change if effective stacks are 20BB's? 200BB's? Does this change at all if these stack sizes raise from LP and you are IP? (Assume this is all HU)

2)How does this change if you are in the blinds with KK against very deep (250+ BBs) raiser, deep enough that a 5x 3Bet does not kill implieds and the BU still has plenty of room to maneuver post-flop? Do you bet the standard for value, or attempt to control the size of the pot since you're deep OOP?

Thanks, already looking forward to next week.

Posted almost 5 years ago

Nebulosity

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Great series. Brand new to DC and I am indeed starting from the ground up on my 6max game. Thanks so much for this series its already helped my game by tightening up in 6max a bit, had three nice wins already since watching these.

Posted almost 5 years ago

Chxdgt

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Here's another stupid question... n0whereman, you've heard this before, but I don't know if we ever settled on an answer Smile

Exactly what is a preflop pot-size bet? If you're opening or raising limpers then it's the standard 3.5-4bb + 1bb per limper, but what if there's significant action in front of you?

I don't suppose this is a big deal... I can just continue to hit the "bet pot" button and adjust accordingly... this is more out of curiosity really.

Posted almost 5 years ago

n0whereman

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Exactly what is a preflop pot-size bet?



I'll use two example to explain. First, a limped pot: Say the blinds are 1/2, and you are OTB with AA. UTG and MP limp, and then it folds to you. If you want to make a pot-sized raise, first add up the total amount of money in the pot (at this point, $7). Now add to that the amount you would put in to match the big blind (another $2, so the pot is now 9). This amount (9), is the amount that you can raise if you are making a pot-sized raise. So if you are going to raise 9 on top (of your call), you would make it 11 total to make a pot-sized raise after 2 limpers. If there was one limper it'd be 9, and with 3 limpers it's 13.

A 3-bet example: Assume the same blind structure, and now you have AA in the BB. Folds to the button who makes it 7, and the SB folds. Here, the amount in the pot when it gets to you is 7+1+2=10. For you to match button's raise, you'd have to put in 5 more, so the total pot you would be raising is 15. 15+5=20, so you would make it 20 more (meaning 20 on top of the $2 big blind you've already put in) to make a pot-sized raise. If the SB calls, then your PSR is 26 on top of your BB.

Those aren't the most concise explanations ever, but hopefully it still makes sense.

Posted almost 5 years ago

spliff

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I have 2 questions to your video.

In the 33 example: why not call for implied odds - just because BTN range is wide ?

I play 5 max games at Ongame and the Boss network (no 6. max).

So, preflop do i just play UTG like MP (raising with ATo) ?

Posted over 4 years ago

tubasteve

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I have 2 questions to your video.

In the 33 example: why not call for implied odds - just because BTN range is wide ?



yep pretty much. i go through some quick estimates regarding this in another vid thread, perhaps video 5?


I play 5 max games at Ongame and the Boss network (no 6. max).

So, preflop do i just play UTG like MP (raising with ATo) ?



more or less. you should also be opening up your game a bit more when IP since others should be playing looser overall as well. and you might have to play from the blinds more often.

Posted over 4 years ago

MyLuckyCards

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Hey guys I'd just like to say a huge thankyou for producing this series. I've been playing for 2 months now and have spent hundreds of hours trying to develop a winning game even at the small stakes - until now it's all been in vein.

Well I sat down with your series recently for a few hours making detailed notes (I'm upto video 2) and that in itself has completely transformed my game.

I've now got the confidence to know I can on the whole beat the micro stake game now and it's thanks to your series! so a huge thankyou!!!!!!

Posted over 4 years ago

MyLuckyCards

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one thing I didn't quite get was the big blind comments.

when are you in position in the big blind? and when are you out of position?

thanks!

Posted over 4 years ago

tubasteve

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one thing I didn't quite get was the big blind comments.

when are you in position in the big blind? and when are you out of position?

thanks!



you are only in position in the BB if it folds around to the small blind. but say UTG up through BU raise, whether SB calls or not you are going to be OOP against the preflop raiser.

glad you are enjoying the series Smile

Posted over 4 years ago

MyLuckyCards

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I noticed that Ace-Ten(o) isn't included in the CO range is this just because it's assumed you use it as it's in the earlier range or is there a reason for leaving A-T(o) out of the CO. Thanks again

Posted over 4 years ago

flavor

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Great series! Very basic, but i really enjoyed watching it.



Well it is called "from the ground up" Smile

Posted over 4 years ago

Politician

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Guys,

Thanks for the great series: I'm really enjoying it.

I noticed you left out Broadway hands from the Button unraised pot hand range. Was that intentional and if so why?

Thanks
Ralph

Posted over 4 years ago

tubasteve

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Guys,

Thanks for the great series: I'm really enjoying it.

I noticed you left out Broadway hands from the Button unraised pot hand range. Was that intentional and if so why?

Thanks
Ralph




You definitely should be raising any 2 broadway from the button.

Posted over 4 years ago

Politician

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