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so whats your guys range for calling his ck/jam, he is pretty short so...
i was thinking all Kx and maybe TT JJ QQ ?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $28.43
UTG: $25.35
Hero (MP): $28.76
CO: $10.51
BTN: $25.00
SB: $6.50

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has XX

UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.10, fold, fold, SB calls $1.00, fold, fold

Flop: ($2.70, 2 players) 5 K 3
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB raises to $5.40 and is all-in, Hero

villain is 29/14 only 7 hands.

what different types of player would alter your decision ?
A: loose passive
B: tight passive
C: loose agro
D: tight agro

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Obviously the more aggro and the looser he is, the wider your calling range should be.
I would probably bet/call all Kx (which is only KTs+ anyway) and check back QQ.

A:& B the same range: vs this stack KJ+ (only cause of his stack size, otherwise even tighter)
C: A high
D: 66+

A:& B the same range: vs this stack KJ+ (only cause of his stack size, otherwise even tighter)
C: A high
D: 66+

so you would call 66+ vs a tight agro players ?
so your basicly saying that a tigght agro player would ck/jam 22 44 here ?

Anything I bet the flop with that isn't air. Hands that I don't think I can bet/call profitably (varies defending on player type) I am checking back and bluff catching.

first, tight aggro is the least playertyp iwould expect a 13bb guy to be. If he's a good shortstacker, he might be TAG though-most on 25NL are bad passive nits or badaggro.

66+ is the lowest cause we're just about flipping with lower pairs aginst his range, 75+ would be ok aswell i guess. Thing is imo that if his range preflop is a lot tighter, we can't call as low as Ahigh since his c/r bluffing range is actually strong (better Ax)

Tight aggro guys will valuebet premiums pre and c/r value here KQ+, but since it's so dry, aggro guys will have lots of bluffs here

I think a lot of these responses are stationy.

Furthermore, you shouldn't be even betting 66, 44, 22 and probably 77, 88 on the flop here vs a TAG. You shouldn't be betting air (22 effectively is air) on this flop vs a TAG range. Use Combonator and see how often a TAG folds here.

I think a lot of these responses are stationy.

Furthermore, you shouldn't be even betting 66, 44, 22 and probably 77, 88 on the flop here vs a TAG. You shouldn't be betting air (22 effectively is air) on this flop vs a TAG range. Use Combonator and see how often a TAG folds here.

Whats the matter with turning our low made hands into bluffs?? not saying betting flop and checking turn is good, but a bet bet line certainly has some merit and FE vs prob at least half of a flop calling range on this flop from a TAG blinds calling range..

Whats the matter with turning our low made hands into bluffs?? not saying betting flop and checking turn is good, but a bet bet line certainly has some merit and FE vs prob at least half of a flop calling range on this flop from a TAG blinds calling range..

See how often a TAG folds this flop. What exactly is he folding?

See how often a TAG folds this flop. What exactly is he folding?

Iam not saying TAGs folding the flop, Iam saying TAGS most likely gonna fold the turn if we two barrrell with at least half his flop calling range, he gets to the turn with..I dont expect much folds from anyone on this flop, I would be expecting them on the turn a ton, or at least half the time.

And a TAG prob gets to the turn with KJs KQ and all 22-TT sometimes the odd with a pair or considering hes in the SB and his calling range is tighter.Really depends on how tight SB calling range is or the TAGs from the blinds

Iam not saying TAGs folding the flop, Iam saying TAGS most likely gonna fold the turn if we two barrrell with at least half his flop calling range, he gets to the turn with..I dont expect much folds from anyone on this flop, I would be expecting them on the turn a ton, or at least half the time.

And a TAG prob gets to the turn with KJs KQ and all 22-TT sometimes the odd with a pair or considering hes in the SB and his calling range is tighter.Really depends on how tight SB calling range is or the TAGs from the blinds

If you are 2barreling the turn with 66 then you're always 2barreling when it's really hard for you to have anything super-good. Not a great straight vs someone semi-aware. Then people stop folding when your 2barrel is like 80%. You have to be right a lot if you are going to 2barrel 66 since you have no equity when called. Furthermore, your 2barrel range is very out of balance.

If you want to pick a horrible hand to 2barrel with, pick your small PPs. It's still hard to be super-confident that he's folding JJ/TT on the turn. If you want to 2barrel, and least pick something that can sometimes have some equity when called.

If you 2barrel with some equity/blockers you don't have to require nearly as much fold equity. Plus you can still use a BXB bluff. This makes your ranges much stronger and yet still balanced. It's hard to make a case that you're sacrificing EV and easy to make a case that you're both gaining EV and becoming more balanced.

Ya I understand our turn barrelling range is gonna be out to lunch and unbalanced more at weak hands...but why not exploit until your being exploited or have a reason to balance...I guess it could be higher EV to 2 barrell with blockers and equity..So like something like AQhh would be a good barrell hand..I just dont find many TAGS exploiting a high double barrell at these limits, and usually taking a standard/static c/c c/f line a lot on these boards, so iam usually not concerned with my hand that much or balance.

Ya I understand our turn barrelling range is gonna be out to lunch and unbalanced more at weak hands...but why not exploit until your being exploited or have a reason to balance...I guess it could be higher EV to 2 barrell with blockers and equity..So like something like AQhh would be a good barrell hand..I just dont find many TAGS exploiting a high double barrell at these limits, and usually taking a standard/static c/c c/f line a lot on these boards, so iam usually not concerned with my hand that much or balance.

This is all presuming that you're exploiting which is an unfair assumption because you are making a lot of estimations on 3 streets to assume that 2barreling air is a good idea. You don't really know what he does with JJ/TT on the turn. You don't know that he has 66 in his preflop range, or flop calling range. We're making really big assumptions when we barrel with no equity and get way out of balance.

If you have a read, it's fine. Without a read then I'd try to not be a lunatic.