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I started taking poker seriously, working on my mental game, playing a lot, and analyzing hands, tomorrow I will analyze some of the regs too. I know, stats doesn't mean everything, but they can give a general picture about someone's game. So any toughts, feedback about my stats is welcomed, any possible leaks, what my stats can suggest. So, my first 10k hands at NL20 short handed (PT3 stats):
VPIP: 23.56
PFR: 18.84
W$WSF: 41.49
WTSD: 27.3
W$SD: 55.17
AF: 2.87
AFq: 46.5
Cbet Flop: 57.71
Cbet Turn: 43.61
Fold to flop cbet: 59.63
PF 3bet: 4.77
Fold to 3bet: 82.02
PF 4bet:4.94
Att to steal: 45.41 Steal success, no flop: 56.32
Fold BB to steal: 77.85
Fold SB to steal: 86.15
Positional stats:
Button: 41.79/36.73
CO: 26.29/23.44
MP: 16.63/15.78
UTG: 12.02/12.02
BB: 14.69/5.61
SB: 23.94/ 16.55

Thank you for your help!

I don't like comparing stats and all this stuff, but...

Let's say you would sit at my table and i would have all those stats. There are two things i would definitely do because of your stats:

1. i would try to steal alot when your in the BB (from SB maybe close to 100%)
2. i would 3bet you alot

oh and 3. i fold alot to your 4bets

and cbet a ton.

and cbet a ton.

agreed

Thank you guys for the replies! And what you think? Should I being aware of these "leaks" (not sure of it, because of passive, calling station players) against regs? I mean, that weaker players aren't exploiting my leaks, they are mostly just playing their hands, their styles, but winning regs definiately can using the stats against you. Should I call more 3bets IP?
And some of my stats, what I don't think is usual:
Cbet flop: 57.71 Isn't this too low? Or against passive players it can be ok?
Att to steal and steal success? Isn't my steal too high, or my success too low? Can you compare it to your stats?
My fold to flop cbet is really that high?

You just shouldn't worry too much about your stats...

Giving advice on what ever stat and what it should look like is pretty much useless. If you play good poker it doesn't matter what your stats look like their just a result of your play vs. your opponents. And every opponent plays different so as a result your stats vs. each opponent should look different.

As an example...

if someone only 3bets AA and KK, you shouldn't call alot of his 3bets.
But lets say he 3bets a 40% range, you shouldn't fold alot.

... Instead you should worry about your game and try to improve.

you should maybe start with stealing and defending blinds.

Yes, I know this stuff. But I know that too, that some of the stats can show clear weaknesses in your game. I'm focusing more on analyzing hands and opponents, just I was curious about this too. What you mean on "you should maybe start with stealing and defending blinds"? Is my blind steal too high?

A low flop cbet isn't necessarily bad depending on your strategy but it's weird to see such a low double barrel (turn cbet) after low flop cbet as I assume your flop cbetting range will have a lot of equity in draws and value hands to bet again with. It seems either you have a really polarized cbetting range and are checking back a lot of medium- semistrong hands/draws (which you should be cbetting at these limits) or you're not barreling thin enough on the turn.

This doesn't conclusively mean anything's wrong btw, but it's something I'd look into. First look into what hands you're checking back on the flop... is it just pure air vs people who never fold, mid strength hands you don't know what to do with, etc, then look at hands you're betting on the flop but checking on the turn, maybe 2nd pairs or some kind of draw.

I think at the micros turn and river cbets are hugely important and people give up way too much because they see their opponents call a lot on the flop and saw them call down with 2nd pair once so think they never fold. A lot of these guys have such wide calling ranges on the flop that even if they're calling down semi wide their range is just so much wider that barreling in the right spots is awesome. There's spots where I bluff the flop + turn knowing I won't get many folds but they're folding like 60%+ of rivers, or if you're paying enough attention you'll notice some people check/call 80% of flops then check/fold 80% of turns. Also because of their wide ranges you can bet thinner for value, especially in position, betting flop + turn with 2nd pair then deciding what to do on the river is standard in a lot of situations, especially in position... you can sometimes even think about doing it with 3rd pair against guys who check call with any 2 overcards.

Obviously these are just ideas you should look out for, not things you should blindly implement, it's really hard to get a handle on even when you know what's going on so post a lot of hands asking questions about this when you're unsure, even if it seems basic like should i cbet here (list factors you're considering and later street considerations) is this a good spot to 3barrel for value/as a bluff etc. Also take a ton of notes, like every showdown, you want to know as much as you can, especially the hands they show up with you wouldn't expect - what their flop calling range is and how they play it on later streets, how they react vs a check back/when checked to, how do they play their river range when the check/call and turn gets checked back. Even things like noticing they limp then fold OOP to a 5bb iso raise but call a 4bb iso raise can be really significant (or slowly creeping up and realizing they'll limp/call a 10bb raise 100%).

Oh also I wouldn't worry about folding to steals/3bets too much if most of the opponents opening and 3betting are nits (found this was the case at the micros, especially at a rakeback site), obviously make correct adjustments to guys that are doing it a lot, but when you open CO with AQ and get 3bet by a BB with a 4% BB 3bet it's fine to just get out of the way. You will notice people swing totally the other way though and be opening SB 80% when it's folded to them and stuff, crush those fools (actually they're probably pretty smart).

Thank you very much for your detailed opinion!

Is my blind steal too high?

Too high... not at all.

Steal success, no flop: 56.32... this is awesome!

Your average Opponent has a FTS somewhere around 75%... awesome!

To show an immediate profit with a 3bb openraise from the button you need around 67% folds from both blinds combined. If this is true you can openraise any two cards and fold all flops and still show a profit. But you never fold all flops you got equity and chances to steal on the flop, turn or even on the river. Even 72o vs. a 25% Range should have more than 25% equity.

So i guess it is too low

45% attempt to steal is too low? If it's folding to me, and the blinds are tight, I steal any two always. If I have a decent hand, I steal even if the blinds aren't that tight. And of course, a lot of the time you can't steal with any two, because of limp-callers, or UTG, MP raises, I think you forgot this. And if I start to raise every hand from CO and BU, the blinds will play back at me a lot, because they aren't that unabservant. I don't know, how can this be more, maybe very-very slightly. But I'm really curious what is the avg. attempt to steal at 6max. What I saw in my PT3 database, decent players, TAGs, LAGs doesn't have that much than 35-37%.

And of course, a lot of the time you can't steal with any two, because of limp-callers, or UTG, MP raises, I think you forgot this.

Att To Steal (Attempted to Steal)
Description: The percentage of times the player made a steal raise (attempted to steal the blinds) when they had the opportunity; i.e. raised when folded to in the cutoff, button, or small blind.
Formula: ( Total Steal Attempts / Total Steal Opportunities ) * 100

You have 100% Opportunities (folded to you in CO, BU and SB) and you only used 45%, to me it looks like their still some Opportunities to use.

And if I start to raise every hand from CO and BU, the blinds will play back at me a lot, because they aren't that unabservant.

If they adjust, they have to do it the right way. If not you can still show a profit.

Oh, don't know, why I misunderstood this stat. Thank you for this! So even if they limped, it isn't calculated in the steal attempt stat. Yeah, that's true, they have to do it the right way, but that's not so difficult against a crazy stealer. 3bet for value with bigger range, and light 3bet more, a lot of TAG's aware of this. Can I ask you, how big is your att to steal stat, and which limit you play?

Due to some Computer issues i lost my database and i was too lazy to restore it but i played around 1k hands at NL 25 to test PT4 and that database says ATS 53.70 but this is pretty much useless because the samplesize is way too small. Maybe i restore my database after this weekend...