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PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $41.35
BB: $83.93
UTG: $26.58
MP: $28.10
Hero (CO): $25.00
BTN: $11.82

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) A 9 5
BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75

Turn: ($3.10, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.10, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, BB raises to $6.75, Hero ?

so first Q, is opening 45s at 25nl to light ?
btn & sb are tight regs and bb is unknown...

flop i decide to 1/2pb because i want him to fold his equity in the hand (all overcards to my 5)
and if he calls i still got some equity to hit 2p or trips or whatever

he calls, on the turn i decide to ck and go to showdown, i think this might be a mistake because most people would call all pp on the flop and fold the alot on the turn with the A being out there.
so i think his turn calling range is mostly Ax 99 55, so maybe turning my hand into a bluff is a better aproach here (also vs an unknown ?)

river i hit the magical 5 and vb - he ck/r me
i mean, i dont know anything about this guy, i riverd trips...
but am i ever good here, most people arent raising with like Ax, so only thing im beating is A9
bet fold the river ?

I do think is a little loose to open this 45 but of course it depends on the btn and the blinds, id personaly would fold it if i have no info on this players.

on the flop i do like the cb but i would make it at leat .85 or .90

If i do cb i would bet every turn, around 60%, except , J, T, 6 & 7, i think this 2 is perfect to make our hand a bluff and buy ourselfs a showdown.

As played the only value hand you beat is A9, there are some miss draws but i aint sure if he is capable of doing this wthout info. I think is a bet fold,

Cbetting less than half pot seems too small. It could definitely be good if villain is some 16 tabling fit or fold reg, but in general I would bet a tad bigger.

River is a little meh, but I'm calling. I don't give regs credit for slowplaying turn and river with a decent hand in spots like this. That might be a little far fetched, but it's not like he has any 5x hands in his range.

How many hands had you played with villain? With someone that deep, I see a bunch of villains just harassing the table and raising as a bluff.

Villain x's T/R. I think with a value hand he donks at least on the river cause if only a good/monster hand is beating you, he has already lost a lot of value from the turn...and now he just x's the river in hopes of x/r'ing. Feels slightly dishonest. Just my 2 cents but if you do call at least you get a read.

everything is fine, call now

flop might be slightly better to go like .8 or .9 just to make him c/c or c/f more. with this hand you don't really want to get c/r and you'd prefer he just c/f stuff like QJ or whatever.

The river raise doesn't excite me too much, villain could just have AX. IMO you didn't make a mistake checking the turn because if villain has an A he isn't going to fold the turn if you barrel again. Checking in this instance was the correct play....I would probably make the call here....

The river raise doesn't excite me too much, villain could just have AX. IMO you didn't make a mistake checking the turn because if villain has an A he isn't going to fold the turn if you barrel again. Checking in this instance was the correct play....I would probably make the call here....

what do the other guys think about checking the flop ?
obviously he isnt folding Ax when i bet the flop but he likely to fold he smaller pp
but given the fact that its bvb he might have more Ax in his range then 33-44 66-88 or TT - i gues JJ is 3b most of the time.
and he is probably defending close to all of his Ax in this spot

(It's not bvb, it's COvBB - there are less Ax hands).

Your line seems weak - he can be trying to bluff you out by shoving trips.

You split with 65s.

As have been said he can valuebet worse like A9.

lol yea, misread my own hand there in the comment.
what do you mean with : "trying to bluff you out by shoving trips", if he is shoving trips he isnt doing it as a bluff... - and i beat non of his trips, i split against 53 54 56 57 58 and i win against A9
but thats it...
how many A9 does he have in his range ? and how manny 5x does he have in his range ?
after thinking about it it looks like a clear fold

You always think he has at least some value hand OTR raise? Even if its thin value? Was it absolute 0 hand history vs him?

what do the other guys think about checking the flop ?
obviously he isnt folding Ax when i bet the flop but he likely to fold he smaller pp
but given the fact that its bvb he might have more Ax in his range then 33-44 66-88 or TT - i gues JJ is 3b most of the time.
and he is probably defending close to all of his Ax in this spot

it's not bvb....????

betting flop lets us fold out many of his holdings immediately. if he doesn't, we will turn enough equity to keep betting often. our hand has SD value, but not quite enough since many of his hands like QJ are fine against us. in addition, we will be unable to call a turn or river bet with our hand very often, so we are relying on his checking down to get to SD and should bluff instead.

focusing on all of his Ax is an incomplete way of looking at this hand.

lol yea, misread my own hand there in the comment.
what do you mean with : "trying to bluff you out by shoving trips", if he is shoving trips he isnt doing it as a bluff...

Oh, sorry, I meant not shoving but representing trips.

very strange hand all around. i think that everything is well played and i would call the river.

edit: to those checking flop- it's not bad to ck back some flops w. some showdown value...but usually you'd like hands that are a bit more protected (ie. higher pairs). with 5x, pretty much any turn/river is going to be an overcard, and we allow villain some extra equity that we wouldn't otherwise by betting.

You always think he has at least some value hand OTR raise? Even if its thin value? Was it absolute 0 hand history vs him?

yea it was like 5 hands without any showdown so yea...
and i think "in general" these hands are close to 100% value at these stakes in these games.
i doubt its for thin value with like Ax...
now i'm talking in general at these games, obv he could deviate from the general assumptions we make, but overal i'm pretty sure this is a value move (fishy, but still value) and im gonna be beat here like close to alwayz...

it's not bvb....????

betting flop lets us fold out many of his holdings immediately. if he doesn't, we will turn enough equity to keep betting often. our hand has SD value, but not quite enough since many of his hands like QJ are fine against us. in addition, we will be unable to call a turn or river bet with our hand very often, so we are relying on his checking down to get to SD and should bluff instead.

focusing on all of his Ax is an incomplete way of looking at this hand.

yea i was mistaking with another hand when i was replying to that comment.
anywayz its CO vs BB so in general i think he has more PP then Ax hands because of logic combo's, i wouldnt expect villain to be defending like A8o but he will defend 22 (this is just an assumption based on stakes & games)
so i guess its better to barrel turn - if he calls im shutting down like any river except 5 4 or 3, right ?

very strange hand all around. i think that everything is well played and i would call the river.

and what hands do you think you will see that you beat ? - except for A9 or a pure bluff i dont see any...
what do you think about barreling the turn ?

I think betting the flop was the correct play......However checking the turn with just a pair of 55s IMO was the correct play also......I never mentioned checking the flop....