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BB: $11.38 - VPIP: 36, PFR: 24, 3B: 4, AF: 0.8, Hands: 237
UTG: $9.98 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 20, 3B: 5, AF: 2.5, Hands: 236
MP: $20.19 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 6, AF: 1.1, Hands: 114
Hero (CO): $20.51 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 23, 3B: 8, AF: 2.9, Hands: 5356
BTN: $23.21 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 23, 3B: 12, AF: 2.3, Hands: 73
SB: $7.46 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 14, 3B: 10, AF: 2.2, Hands: 139

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.45) 3 7 4 (2 players)
BB bets $1.52, Hero calls $1.52

Turn: ($5.49) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $3.91, Hero calls $3.91

River: ($13.31) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75

Final Pot: $22.81
BB shows K K
Hero shows Q Q
BB wins $21.67
(Rake: $1.14)

I don't know how I could improve my play here- my passive line seems to minimize my losses, but somehow I felt like he had a strong or better hand here

is it a mistake to put the villain on a wider range in 6max here say 99+, ATs+? maybe it was the timing that led me to believe he had a strong range here that went contrary to his numbers
should I loosen his range here based on position and his numbers or go with my gut? but I still don't know how I can fold QQ overpair here?

maybe if the stacks were really deep like 500BB I could fold an overpair on a really wet board right?

Under what assumptions did you decide to flat preflop villains 3betting range has alot of equity vs QQ?

Not really a sick hand.
This guy despite looking like very loose and aggressive at first glance, has a very low 3b%, which should tell you that he probably doesn`t have many bluffs in his 3b range.
Also you should take a look at his turn and river Af, and with what hands is he getting to sd with.
As played i would fold the turn.

4bet/call preflop.

1) Sample size isn't that big.
2) 4% is 3 bet overall. It says nothing about how often he is 3 betting from the blinds vs a steal attempt, which is usually going to be higher. It also says nothing about how villain perceives you, which could change villain's 3 bet%, and range.
3) Even if villain's 3 bet% was 4%, and he never folded to a 4 bet, QQ is still a 4bet for value.


Equity Win Tie
MP2 52.99% 51.65% 1.34% { QQ }
MP3 47.01% 45.66% 1.34% { TT+, AQs+, AKo } (3.77% of hands)

how do you know to fold the turn? I see if he has only JJ+ at the turn then I am behind but if it is TT+ at the turn I am 50% equity. I am also stealing and raising a lot pre flop, maybe 90% steal from the button.
do you check showdown hands with the HM1 player detail window? but I could never get this to work.
it's also a question whether he has AQ in his range preflop. I flat because he seems very aggressive and I want to disguise my hand and get more value, because I haven't 4 bet a lot at NL10 here and I think people are folding like 80% or more to 4 bets.
It's kind of difficult to grind long hours with the health problems I have now despite seeing all these doctors.

is anyone making money on carbon/merge? even at the lower limits it seems impossible unless you play perfectly
I want to know the truth, is NLHE dead on the internet? is PLO profitable at all?

ok i see no reason not to 4bet here for vlalue and call off a shove. as played im not sure youre ever doing anything but getting value stacked especially with two diamonds on the flop.

It is not good to fold here because villain range is too wide
maybe if it was 1%

you don't think villian might float once with AK at least? it's hard to know which player type/stats would do that? I just think it seems like terrible to fold QQ on this board, maybe TT I might see to tight 3 bet stats
but I don't really know I don't have access to a large hand sample since I got attacked by a computer virus

is anyone making money on carbon/merge? even at the lower limits it seems impossible unless you play perfectly
I want to know the truth, is NLHE dead on the internet? is PLO profitable at all?

Yeah, I'm making money on carbon/merge playing NLHE.

Say you want to look at this from more a gto perspective.
Start by thinking about how many combinations of hands 4% represents. Then start thinking about how often your opponent will need to be bluffing all 3 streets if he is continuing with QQ+ always in order for you to have a profitable river call.

Is 99-JJ in villain's range OTR?

Thanks for the replies! So do you think that he is only 3 betting AK, 99+ maybe? Mr. Shuttle, do you mean that I should assume b/c of stats that this player is only 3 barrelling QQ+ here and not betting 99? I'm not sure what you mean by the GTO idea? It seems like only an advanced player would 1 barrel 99-TT and my button open is 90% or greater so that would induce more aggression it seems
sometimes I might peel a dry flop and try to take down the pot on the turn

it seems pretty possible to 3 bet 99+,AK,AQ here. If he is 3 barrelling 99+ then I have enough equity to call down to showdown, but vs QQ+ I don't
it seems there is some bluff frequency here on a dry board at least for some players, so maybe the agg freq stat is good?

so I guess I should take the preflop equity advantage by 4 betting QQ+ and gaining EV that way?

Or maybe some players when they see me call this dry flop they are going to put me on a pair and shutdown?

what reason is there not to see 99-JJ in villain range OTR?