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Yes I think you are right and I am underestimating it. Because I just don't get how someone that is a reg can call an $18 bet on the river with those holdings. What's the reason to call a 3 barrel with those holdings on a board where I have very very few bluffs in my range? I think that is really terrible so I expect most regs to think so. I'm pretty sure you would almost never call 3 streets with the holdings you mentioned above?

Yes I think you are right and I am underestimating it. Because I just don't get how someone that is a reg can call an $18 bet on the river with those holdings. What's the reason to call a 3 barrel with those holdings on a board where I have very very few bluffs in my range? I think that is really terrible so I expect most regs to think so. I'm pretty sure you would almost never call 3 streets with the holdings you mentioned above?

People are bad at poker, even regs.

Just because someone plays a lot, and has reasonable stats, doesn't mean they are any good.

If we assume players call 3barrels with marginal hands like that, do you think they can shove AQ for value OTR or turn busted draws into bluffs where it's very likely I'm going to bet/call given my line?

If we assume players call 3barrels with marginal hands like that, do you think they can shove AQ for value OTR or turn busted draws into bluffs where it's very likely I'm going to bet/call given my line?

It's possible, but in my experience they are more likely to just call with AQ. Players will bet a busted draw on the river as a bluff when checked to, but it's extremely rare for them to raise a river bet with them.

yeah just a check, that was what I had in mind as well.

River bet size is awful. Gets him to induce lots of stuff like 65, 4x, doesnt get value from Qx and 2nd pocket pairs.

He doesnt have a 3 in his range so he is repping FH here. Id call and expect to see pocket pair turned into bluff often enough. He is basically repping <12combos.

Vil's raise river %, WWSF %, Agfq river would be something, to take into account whether to fold or call imo.

You're getting about 2:1 on a call OTR, so the question to ask youself: Is Villian having 2/3 value combos and 1/3 bluffs vs. you hand? In other words are you beating 33% or more of Vil's range OTR --> call

I think that is really terrible so I expect most regs to think so.

stomping out projection is one of the biggest hurdles uNL players have to clear, imo, before they start really crushing and moving up

Vil's raise river %, WWSF %, Agfq river would be something, to take into account whether to fold or call imo.

You're getting about 2:1 on a call OTR, so the question to ask youself: Is Villian having 2/3 value combos and 1/3 bluffs vs. you hand? In other words are you beating 33% or more of Vil's range OTR --> call

This is how I understand balance, is this the proper way to wiev balance terp? Maybe a bit off topic sorry..

that's just pot odds, sir

that's just pot odds, sir

Okay sir guess what I was asking: Can I use this question by reframe it as: Is this distribution 33% bluff and 67% value likely to be accurate for this Vil's range? (100% balanced) In other words use this method to estimated how balanced this Vil is?

Thanks..

Okay sir guess what I was asking: Can I use this question by reframe it as: Is this distribution 33% bluff and 67% value likely to be accurate for this Vil's range? (100% balanced) In other words use this method to estimated how balanced this Vil is?

Thanks..

Good question. Although I think it's impossible to have 66% value and 33% bluff in your range in every single hand you play. I think you should use this distribution over a total of a large sample and not in every single hand because it's just impossible. Is that correct??

I was referring to Villians range ;-)
, IMO it's all we need to know in order to call profitable, but when we raise or bet we have to think about balance I in our range..

I was referring to Villians range ;-)
, IMO it's all we need to know in order to call profitable, but when we raise or bet we have to think about balance I in our range..

I know, I was talking about villains range. It doesnt matter if its our range or villains. It's just not possible to have this distribution on every board.

This topic just went way over my head. Mainly what terp is saying. Any resources you'd suggest I read before I try it again to better understand it? What do you mean by projection?